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So glad I'm gay. Seems much easier than dealing with the hassles of heterosexualism.
What "hassles" might those be.? I would think that relationships all have more in common , than not, . Gag or straight, it can't be wine and roses all the time. What makes gay relationships so much better? I don't feel harassed or hassled, in any way, for being in a heterosexual relationship. Matter of fact, I feel pretty damn lucky. Granted, not all the relationships I've had were as good as this one, but, if that was the path I bad to walk to get here, its worth every trial an tribulation.
So, unless you're agreeing with the OPs view that male/female contact is disgusting, that women are disgusting and that there is, indeed, some type of societal pressure trying to force us into relationships with the opposite sex, I can't see how being vah has any inherant advantage to bring straight. Just looking at my lady makes me thankful I'm not gay. Can't imagine missing out on being with her. A gay couple probably feels the same way about each other that my gal and I do, so where are the advantages to being gay?
However, the disgust you show for women is insane. Do you feel the same disgust towards men? If not, you may want to evaluate you sexual preferences. A woman's smell is far from disgusting. Unless she is a disgusting woman I suppose... Either way, I could never get behind your movement, simply because I love women too much, specifically my wife. I also love my son way too much. Being alone all the time would also suck. To each his own, but geez, what is up with the disgust you show towards female bodies and smells??
I NEVER said I was disgusted by women or their bodies. Just the whole sex thing is very, VERY overrated and the smells and sounds that come with it are horrible. Trust me: I LOVE the female form. I almost watched all of "Jupiter Ascending" just because Mila Kunis was in it..."almost" being the operative word.
I am fine with it being a virtual or fantasy thing, it is just the reality is NOT worth it and is very overrated, and more and more men are realizing that everyday.
Wow, I read all of that in Ron Swanson's voice. Good job.
Anyway, the problem with your "outburst" is that all the societal rules you are talking about only applied to the top tier, wealthy members of society. As for the rest of America, those women almost always worked. If a woman was lucky and had some education, she could become a teacher or nurse. If not, she became a domestic (housekeeper/cook/servant), a seamstress, took washing or ironing in to her home, maybe got a factory job, or cared for the children of other women who had to work outside the home. My own grandmother (born in 1900) worked as a home economics teacher for decades while raising a family and taking care of a home, while her husband also worked as an engineer. There was no shame, and two income homes are nothing new for the middle class and below.
As for the whole "wife's obligation" rigmarole, that was because women and children were considered weak and vulnerable, and needed a man to direct their life choices - because women could not possibly be able to make their own choices in life - they were too stupid and uneducated to do so. That's what happens when girls are not educated and choices are always made for them, [1] they become dependent on men. [2] And men did indeed consider their wives property - which is why they could tell them what they were and were not allowed to do. A woman could not leave her house if her husband forbade her, could not have a bank account without her husbands permission, could not even sign legal forms on her own if she was married - sure sounds like property to me.
Your idea of "obedience" sounds awfully similar to slavery - you know, where people owned other people because those people could never be counted on to make decisions about their own lives; they were considered to ignorant, uneducated, and foolhardy to do so.
Can we please stop this ridiculous pining for the "good old days" when, apparently, men lived in a golden age of easy dating until marriage and subservient wives? Because if that's what you really want, an uneducated woman who will do exactly as you say and ONLY exactly as you say, the real problem is YOU.
Thank you for your kind words of support.
However, your examples fit in post 1930's America, not in the pre-socialist days.
[1] Women, under socialism, are still dependent upon men's support - via the courts, and via the socialist tax system that burdens the single male more than the single female mother.
[2] OBEDIENCE does not equate to property ownership.
I think you would agree that a man owning a horse or dog is not obligated to SUPPORT and / or DIE in DEFENSE of said horse or dog. Nor face criminal charges for neglect.
WHEREAS, a man / husband / father DID have the legal duty to support, defend, and die, if need be in their defense.
If that is not worthy of OBEDIENCE, what else would be?
Women do not want equality. They want everything they can get from men AND retain their gender based superiority under the law.
FWIW - under the common law, taking the husband's family name signified the wife's acceptance of life long support. HOWEVER, a propertied woman could refuse coverture and retain sovereignty over her property. This was signified by keeping her own family (maiden) name. (That's why so many European nobles have hyphenated names)
This is exemplified by Queen Elizabeth II who retained WINDSOR as her wedded name, and not her husband's (Mountbatten). And her children took HER family name as she was the SOVEREIGN, not the husband / father.
CAVEAT- this was an election that relieved the husband of all legal duties to support and defend her, as well. Can't have your cake and eat his, too.
I NEVER said I was disgusted by women or their bodies. Just the whole sex thing is very, VERY overrated and the smells and sounds that come with it are horrible. Trust me: I LOVE the female form. I almost watched all of "Jupiter Ascending" just because Mila Kunis was in it..."almost" being the operative word.
I am fine with it being a virtual or fantasy thing, it is just the reality is NOT worth it and is very overrated, and more and more men are realizing that everyday.
You are fine with the thought of a woman, just not anything remotely attractive about a real woman. You like how Mila Kunis looks, but would not touch her in real life, due to her icky smell and the sounds it may make. Gotcha. I personally would not hesitate, and my wife wouldn't either! I don't get it, at all, but okay.
I am sorry but I am having hard time believing you don't hold some type of resentment towards women especially when you post stuff like this. Op we understand where you are coming from, but please do not denigrate women or romance. Men can screw over women and make their lives miserable as well it is not only men who suffer from dating. Having visited a couple MGTOW sites, for an organization claiming they are abounding women/romance they seem to spend all their time talking about women. One would have to be dumb to not see blatant misogyny/resentment that many of the members hold towards women. It's no wonder they are not highly though of.
Your attitudes towards sexuality and human contact are very unhealthy. I honestly would recommend seeing a therapist about that, I am being very serious.
I NEVER said I was disgusted by women or their bodies. Just the whole sex thing is very, VERY overrated and the smells and sounds that come with it are horrible. Trust me: I LOVE the female form. I almost watched all of "Jupiter Ascending" just because Mila Kunis was in it..."almost" being the operative word.
I am fine with it being a virtual or fantasy thing, it is just the reality is NOT worth it and is very overrated, and more and more men are realizing that everyday.
Eh, not really. While some women and men have little desire to have sex it's not a growing field. Most people enjoy sex. If you don't than I would say that you just don't have much of a sex drive or have a hard time finding someone who wants to have sex with you.
There is already a movement like that. It is called "True Forced Loneliness" ( TFL ). Started by some guy with an wife and son. He was fired over his youtube channel from his job cleaning a pool inside an hotel establishment. Ideas like preserving your virginity and stuff.
There is already a movement like that. It is called "True Forced Loneliness" ( TFL ). Started by some guy with an wife and son. He was fired over his youtube channel from his job cleaning a pool inside an hotel establishment. Ideas like preserving your virginity and stuff.
Shame he doesn't make any videos anymore.
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What "hassles" might those be.? I would think that relationships all have more in common , than not, . Gag or straight, it can't be wine and roses all the time. What makes gay relationships so much better? I don't feel harassed or hassled, in any way, for being in a heterosexual relationship. Matter of fact, I feel pretty damn lucky. Granted, not all the relationships I've had were as good as this one, but, if that was the path I bad to walk to get here, its worth every trial an tribulation. 
I don't get it, at all, but okay.