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Old 11-16-2015, 08:49 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Best bet? Set up a health savings account (which works like a 401k). Put half of what you would otherwise pay in insurance premiums in it. Adjust your income tax withholding such that you owe at the end of the year (no refund, which can be seized). Don't pay the Obozocare penalty. Er TAX. Pay for your own routine health maintenance.

That is something I have seriously been considering.

What is the penalty again?
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Old 11-16-2015, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Best bet? Set up a health savings account (which works like a 401k). Put half of what you would otherwise pay in insurance premiums in it. Adjust your income tax withholding such that you owe at the end of the year (no refund, which can be seized). Don't pay the Obozocare penalty. Er TAX. Pay for your own routine health maintenance.
It sounds like you are saying don't buy insurance but go ahead and contribute to an HSA. You are aware that you can only contribute to an HSA if you currently have a high deductible health plan, right?
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Old 11-16-2015, 08:50 AM
 
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Baring going single payer,
Which is what we should have done. Paid for with the money we are now wasting on wars and bribes paid to other countries to assist us in these wasteful wars.
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Old 11-16-2015, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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That is something I have seriously been considering.

What is the penalty again?
Something like $700 or two percent of your income, whichever is higher.
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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It sounds like you are saying don't buy insurance but go ahead and contribute to an HSA. You are aware that you can only contribute to an HSA if you currently have a high deductible health plan, right?
Not only that - not all high deductible plans qualify for a HSA. Some are (and this is hard to believe) TOO high deductible to qualify.

As if that makes sense.

And what business is it of the government's which healthcare insurance plan we use in order to set up a HSA as long as we can prove that we spent the money eventually on health care costs?

And what business is it of an insurance provider whether we choose to set up a HSA that is tax deductible?

Too much interplay between the IRS and privately owned insurance providers.
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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The IRS should not be involved in any way with health care. That right there shows what a mess Obamacare is.
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:03 AM
 
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If this had been done right it wouldn't matter what state you live in.
That's the trick isn't it? 50 states with 50 different Insurance Commissioners, 50 different insurance regulators/regulations. What a mess.
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:05 AM
 
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Well, at least some of the people suffering under Obamacare are the fools who elected him. I do feel sorry for the others though.
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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That's the trick isn't it? 50 states with 50 different Insurance Commissioners, 50 different insurance regulators/regulations. What a mess.
For us. For the insurance folks, who authored this bill, it was a gold mine of never-ending revenue.
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Obamacare is a ruse. An expensive one.



http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/15...less.html?_r=0
Isn't that what people wanted? Lower premiums, higher deductibles? Be careful what you wish for.
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