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Old 01-13-2016, 01:18 AM
 
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Did you forget we also armed Iran? We didn't care who won, only that we profited. Not to mention that Iran didn't win that conflict either.
Of course we cared. There's no way in hell that we wanted the Iranians to win that war.

And Iran won by NOT LOSING.
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Who the hell would care if they wiped out Iran? It's the only major Shi'a country in the region. Iraq is in turmoil and Azerbaijan is secular and also hates Iran. Besides, it's not trying to invade, according to the statement, but use nukes.
The 75 million Iranian people would care.

Pakistan cannot afford to nuke Iran. They simply can't afford to raise the stakes that high. If they could, they would've nuked India already.
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Old 01-13-2016, 01:30 PM
 
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What is the relationship of Pakistan and Saudi? Sunnis? Or is it a pro Western thing
Saudi Arabia supported the establishment of a separate, Muslim country in what used to be (pre-'73) western India. Then Pakistan broke away and SA has supported it ever since. They are very tight allies.

Most of the Muslims in Pakistan are Sunni, and that may have something to do with it, but the Sunni/Shia divide is not as simple as most tend to think. It's really more about regional strengths and weaknesses, power and hegemony. (The Islamic Revolution of 1979 really shook up the status quo, and the tremors are still being felt.)
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Old 01-13-2016, 07:53 PM
 
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Under no circumstance should a backwards, goat herding, crime-ridden, terror-supporting, lawless. and violent @#$@-hole like Pakistan have the ability to make the decision to wipe any nation off of the face of the earth. Who decided and continues to think that their having nuclear weapons is a good idea? Why are we not going nuts over their nuclear capabilities?

Iran aside, this threat is akin to someone waving an AK-47 around in a public mall. This only proves that they are incapable of the responsibility that comes with nukes. Seriously, it's like being okay with crips or bloods weighing in on nuclear war. Yes, Pakistan, we know you have big chrome plated guns. Now kindly stop waving them or otherwise take them out of your waistband, unload them, and hand them over.
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Old 01-13-2016, 08:00 PM
 
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If there's a nation in that region that's unconquerable, it's Iran. Forget it. It can't be subdued by anyone, let alone Pakistan. They couldn't sustain themselves long enough. Iran is in a much better position to grind it out just by their location alone...let alone their oil resources.
In addition, Pakistan would then be turned to glass by Russia. And so goes the probable domino effect of nuclear war.

What people don't realize is that the desire to overthrow Iran is only to isolate Russia. The desire to overthrow Syria is to isolate Iran, to isolate Russia. Thus, Russia isn't going to let either of these countries fall if it can help it.
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Old 01-13-2016, 08:07 PM
 
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Zionism means "the right for the Jewish people to have self-determination and live in their own country peacefully". So anyone who hates Zionism believes that Jews, unlike other people in the world, have no right to self-determination.
Well, by that logic, then being against German self-determinism is anti-German and racist, pure and simple. Currently, the Germans are having quite the struggle with self-determination and I don't see anyone notable coming to their rescue. Will you?
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Old 01-13-2016, 08:24 PM
 
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Two countries that also supported the Taliban government, no surprise here.

Saudi Arabia is laughable regarding their military, anyone who ever worked with them will tell you that. Pakistan is hardly holding together, more like a series of alliances with radicals to keep them off the back of the government, who is full of radicals themselves.

Iran has nothing to worry about.
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Old 01-13-2016, 09:09 PM
 
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It would likely happen as well since Pakistan has a professional military, and not the Joke force that the Iranians have.
Iraq took them on for 8 years and lost, some joke.
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Old 01-13-2016, 09:52 PM
 
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Iraq did not lose that war. The war had no winner and no loser. It was a draw. But the Iranians were using child soldiers, so that tells you something about their "military capabilities".
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Old 01-13-2016, 09:54 PM
 
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Well, by that logic, then being against German self-determinism is anti-German and racist, pure and simple. Currently, the Germans are having quite the struggle with self-determination and I don't see anyone notable coming to their rescue. Will you?
Yeah, the Germans have every right to their own country. What issues with self-determination are they having? If you're referring to Muslim immigration, those people are the ones who welcomed in the so-called "refugees".
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:07 PM
 
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Iraq did not lose that war. The war had no winner and no loser. It was a draw. But the Iranians were using child soldiers, so that tells you something about their "military capabilities".
Iraq did lose the war, Iraq did not accomplish the objective of the war they started.

Iraq had the backing of most of the world, Iran just came out of a revolution and obtained little support except underhanded arms deals.
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