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Posts like these two leave me breathless. Reasons below.
Yes. Blame the West for opposing the barbarians. Ignoring them worked real well for the Romans; and for the peaceful countries in Europe of the 1930's.
Ignorant posts like yours leave me breathless. Why are we there in the first place? Which country attacked us? Which of our states borders are we protecting over there?
Re that stupid No Jews story--I can't believe someone actually posted that after all these years. All you have to do is look at some of the last names of the dead. Or have been paying the slightest bit of attention in 2001.
The head of the Port Authority, which owned the buildings, died. Neil Levin. Sound Irish or Italian to you? Gary Lutnick, the partner at Cantor Fitz Gerald, the firm at the top of T1 that lost hundreds. Sounds like maybe a Chinese name?
A couple of hundred Jews died at the WTC. Stupidity is a choice.
Posts like yours leave me breathless. Reasons below.
I am glad you know how to copy and paste. I recognize my vocabulary.
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry
When we attack them they'll retaliate. Only those who have a twisted agenda would think otherwise.... Which one of our states borders are we protecting? I'll give you a hint, none. Protecting our oil is the answer.
Just because the attacks are stateless doesn't make them non-attacks. It is patently obvious what the transaction is here. The Arab states fought four conventional wars against Israel, a Western country. Most of the world grudgingly acknowledged Israel's right to defend themselves against another state actor. Even there there was a double-standard; the wars was started by others and Israel was expected to return territories lost in those wars without giving Egypt-like peace guarantees.
The Arabs wised up and understood they could never beat a Western country in a conventional land war So they turned to asymetrical war. Examples abound in the rest of the West besides Israel (and I am leaving out Khobar Towers and the USS Cole, arguably military targets, though non-belligerent):
The 1972 Olympic attacks
Various discotheque bombings in Germany during the 1980's
The first World Trade Center attack
The attacks on the Kenya and Tanzania embassies
September 11
Attacks on the trains in Spain on March 11, 2004
The July 11, 2005 London subway attacks
Cartoon jihad circa 2007 and 2008
The attempt to fashion bombs to blow up aircraft over the Atlantic during July 2006
The Charlie Hebdo attack
The Benghazi attack
The attack on the Paris kosher supermarket
The attack on the concert hall and soccer stadium in Paris in 2015;
The attacks in Brussels;
San Bernardino; and
The Egyptair attack a few weeks ago.
In Israel, knifings, random attacks through terror tunnels, bus bombings, Hamas missile attacks, pizza parlor attacks and the like. I concede that none of these are likely to destroy Israel as a state. But they take lives senselessly and needlessly. They injure Israel's economy. And most important no organized society would tolerate them. Even Loveshiscountry as an American would never tolerate those kinds of attacks becoming routine within Canada.
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry
So which country in the Middle East was trying to take over? Was it Iraq or Egypt or Iran? Tell me which one has the capability to take over the Middle East?
I don't know what you're talking about. Please explain in English.
Re that stupid No Jews story--I can't believe someone actually posted that after all these years. All you have to do is look at some of the last names of the dead. Or have been paying the slightest bit of attention in 2001.
The head of the Port Authority, which owned the buildings, died. Neil Levin. Sound Irish or Italian to you? Gary Lutnick, the partner at Cantor Fitz Gerald, the firm at the top of T1 that lost hundreds. Sounds like maybe a Chinese name?
A couple of hundred Jews died at the WTC. Stupidity is a choice.
One of the attorneys for our firm lost a brother there. Trust me, he was Jewish. As was my stepmother-in-law's niece.
I am glad you know how to copy and paste. I recognize my vocabulary.
Yet you don't recognize the rights of the individuals in other countries. "Those people" don't count right?
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Originally Posted by jbgusa
Just because the attacks are stateless doesn't make them non-attacks. It is patently obvious what the transaction is here. The Arab states fought four conventional wars against Israel, a Western country. Most of the world grudgingly acknowledged Israel's right to defend themselves against another state actor. Even there there was a double-standard; the wars was started by others and Israel was expected to return territories lost in those wars without giving Egypt-like peace guarantees.
The Arabs wised up and understood they could never beat a Western country in a conventional land war So they turned to asymetrical war. Examples abound in the rest of the West besides Israel (and I am leaving out Khobar Towers and the USS Cole, arguably military targets, though non-belligerent):
The 1972 Olympic attacks
Various discotheque bombings in Germany during the 1980's
The first World Trade Center attack
The attacks on the Kenya and Tanzania embassies
September 11
Attacks on the trains in Spain on March 11, 2004
The July 11, 2005 London subway attacks
Cartoon jihad circa 2007 and 2008
The attempt to fashion bombs to blow up aircraft over the Atlantic during July 2006
The Charlie Hebdo attack
The Benghazi attack
The attack on the Paris kosher supermarket
The attack on the concert hall and soccer stadium in Paris in 2015;
The attacks in Brussels;
San Bernardino; and
The Egyptair attack a few weeks ago.
In Israel, knifings, random attacks through terror tunnels, bus bombings, Hamas missile attacks, pizza parlor attacks and the like. I concede that none of these are likely to destroy Israel as a state. But they take lives senselessly and needlessly. They injure Israel's economy. And most important no organized society would tolerate them. Even Loveshiscountry as an American would never tolerate those kinds of attacks becoming routine within Canada.
Again which one of our states borders did they attack? Read up on the reasons to go to war. The founders knew. Don't sacrifice the lives of Americans over something that has absolutely nothing to do with protecting our borders. When we occupy and invade people get mad.
God Bless America, God D@%n our government.
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Originally Posted by jbgusa
I don't know what you're talking about. Please explain in English.
In response to who is going to take over the Middle East.
I am glad you know how to copy and paste. I recognize my vocabulary.
Yet you don't recognize the rights of the individuals in other countries. "Those people" don't count right?
I never said that. They are the ones who mounted unprovoked attacks. Even if the attacks are not under state flags we are not about to be helpless.
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry
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Originally Posted by jbgusa
Just because the attacks are stateless doesn't make them non-attacks. It is patently obvious what the transaction is here. The Arab states fought four conventional wars against Israel, a Western country. Most of the world grudgingly acknowledged Israel's right to defend themselves against another state actor. Even there there was a double-standard; the wars was started by others and Israel was expected to return territories lost in those wars without giving Egypt-like peace guarantees.
The Arabs wised up and understood they could never beat a Western country in a conventional land war So they turned to asymetrical war. Examples abound in the rest of the West besides Israel (and I am leaving out Khobar Towers and the USS Cole, arguably military targets, though non-belligerent):
The 1972 Olympic attacks
Various discotheque bombings in Germany during the 1980's
The first World Trade Center attack
The attacks on the Kenya and Tanzania embassies
September 11
Attacks on the trains in Spain on March 11, 2004
The July 11, 2005 London subway attacks
Cartoon jihad circa 2007 and 2008
The attempt to fashion bombs to blow up aircraft over the Atlantic during July 2006
The Charlie Hebdo attack
The Benghazi attack
The attack on the Paris kosher supermarket
The attack on the concert hall and soccer stadium in Paris in 2015;
The attacks in Brussels;
San Bernardino; and
The Egyptair attack a few weeks ago.
In Israel, knifings, random attacks through terror tunnels, bus bombings, Hamas missile attacks, pizza parlor attacks and the like. I concede that none of these are likely to destroy Israel as a state. But they take lives senselessly and needlessly. They injure Israel's economy. And most important no organized society would tolerate them. Even Loveshiscountry as an American would never tolerate those kinds of attacks becoming routine within Canada.
Again which one of our states borders did they attack? Read up on the reasons to go to war. The founders knew. Don't sacrifice the lives of Americans over something that has absolutely nothing to do with protecting our borders. When we occupy and invade people get mad.
God Bless America, God D@%n our government.
I repeat, since you don't seem to understand my post, or pretend not to. These people realize that attacking under a state flag is a suicide run so they use asymetrical warfare. Again we should not be helpless.
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry
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Originally Posted by jbgusa
I don't know what you're talking about. Please explain in English.
In response to who is going to take over the Middle East.
Who do you think should protect non-Muslim interests in the Middle East?
Easily preventable? Acts of Karma cannot be prevented!
Real retaliation after the Khobar Towers, Kenyan and Tanzanian Embassy, or U.S.S. Cole attacks may have cooled their ardor.
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