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I have no problem with the question involving an actual case vs a fictional one for the sake of example, and I'm not a legal expert, but I think the appropriate sentence should be applied in any case of proven sexual assault and/or rape, on top of which degrees or counts of additional acts that aggravate the basic charge of sexual assault and/or rape should be considered.
For example, conviction of a "date rape," be X time in jail. "Date rape" with the use of drugs to incapacitate the victim (AKA Cosby foreplay), be X time in jail + Y time in jail.
Some sex crimes are more serious, by orders of magnitude, than what happened in the Stanford case. By their unwillingness to acknowledge that, people here trivialize the whole concept of rape. A generation ago rape meant forcing intercourse on a woman by violence, and it was universally recognized in civilized societies as a heinous crime, second only to murder. Now, rape is a woman passing out drunk during sex play and feeling bad about it when she wakes up.
Some sex crimes are more serious, by orders of magnitude, than what happened in the Stanford case. By their unwillingness to acknowledge that, people here trivialize the whole concept of rape. A generation ago rape meant forcing intercourse on a woman by violence, and it was universally recognized in civilized societies as a heinous crime, second only to murder. Now, rape is a woman passing out drunk during sex play and feeling bad about it when she wakes up.
Some sex crimes are more serious, by orders of magnitude, than what happened in the Stanford case. By their unwillingness to acknowledge that, people here trivialize the whole concept of rape. A generation ago rape meant forcing intercourse on a woman by violence, and it was universally recognized in civilized societies as a heinous crime, second only to murder. Now, rape is a woman passing out drunk during sex play and feeling bad about it when she wakes up.
Oh? "In eighteenth century England, most of the principles of the modem law of rape were established. These include criteria for demonstrating a lack of consent, corroboration requirements for cases involving child victims, and the focus upon the character and motives of the complainant. . . . The hostility and vulnerability to character assassination which the modern American rape victim faces in attempting to follow her complaint through thecriminal courts is well known and requires little documentation here. Prosecutions for rape are now, as they have been for over 250 years, associated with institutionalized reactions that have the effect of bringing discomfort to the victim, rather than the defendant." http://scholarlycommons.law.northwes...0&context=jclc
... nicely sums up the feminist approach to debate.
I love this term feminist. You throw that out there like if someone defends a female he or she is a feminist. Hogwash. You will find ANY reason to justify what poor little Brock did. Brock is a rapist. The courts sent him to jail. Directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect your pervert card. I guess I am a feminist since I consider rape a bad thing.
I love this term feminist. You throw that out there like if someone defends a female he or she is a feminist. Hogwash. You will find ANY reason to justify what poor little Brock did. Brock is a rapist. The courts sent him to jail. Directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect your pervert card. I guess I am a feminist since I consider rape a bad thing.
As I have said, I agree that Turner committed a crime and think he received an appropriate sentence. I disagree with those who want a much harsher sentence. Long jail terms are only appropriate for more serious sex crimes.
As I have said, I agree that Turner committed a crime and think he received an appropriate sentence. I disagree with those who want a much harsher sentence. Long jail terms are only appropriate for more serious sex crimes.
Rape, forcible rape, gang rape, rape/kidnapping, rape/beating, rape/torture
So having sex with an unconscious woman is not considered rape in your mind
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