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This list makes that clear and helps by giving specifics.
The list is an attempt at dark humor, which I generally approve of. But given the topic, an the sheer nastiness of the whole "rape culture" campaign, it is hard to find much to laugh at.
If she hadn't passed out completely drunk, she wouldn't have gotten "digitally penetrated" and much of her later mental distress is because everyone now knows of her stupidity. Between her being rescued and then being interviewed by the police and going through the legal system, everyone knows the consequences of her poor decisions that night.
Can you really say that she would have been raped had she not passed out? I honestly don't think that he would have. Maybe pawed at her, but certainly not forced entry into her vagina.
Others have discussed this post, and like the last one said, now it's my turn:
Do you have some sort of strange crystal ball that tells you what might have happened under different circumstances? In point of fact, what happened happened. Forget this "it might have been different".
But at the end of the day, if a woman puts herself in a vulnerable position (passed out drunk) in a strange environment (not within the safety of her home or a friend's place) and without the company of friends, if she does get robbed, assaulted or raped... what good does it do to put the blame solely on the perpetrators? My comments are just to say that no woman should be counting on gentlemanly behaviour from every single man or person around her when she is inebriated and all by herself.
So you can argue all you like about where the blame should be distributed, but what does it matter after a rape occurs. The horse has long left the barn. But my posts are about trying to prevent future rapes. And a harsher punishment for Turner isn't going to stop future campus rapes. Women going to these parties need to stick together and only drink moderately. And not dress too sexy either... since when has anyone ever met their soulmate at these bashes? Women have to also stop being okay with the current casual hookup culture. FWB's are only for the benefit of the guys.
But at the end of the day, if a woman puts herself in a vulnerable position (passed out drunk) in a strange environment (not within the safety of her home or a friend's place) and without the company of friends, if she does get robbed, assaulted or raped... what good does it do to put the blame solely on the perpetrators? My comments are just to say that no woman should be counting on gentlemanly behaviour from every single man or person around her when she is inebriated and all by herself.
So you can argue all you like about where the blame should be distributed, but what does it matter after a rape occurs. The horse has long left the barn. But my posts are about trying to prevent future rapes. And a harsher punishment for Turner isn't going to stop future campus rapes. Women going to these parties need to stick together and only drink moderately. And not dress too sexy either... since when has anyone ever met their soulmate at these bashes? Women have to also stop being okay with the current casual hookup culture. FWB's are only for the benefit of the guys.
Okay, what about women who are drugged, what is your advice for them? Women who have a seizure or other medical emergency and are vulnerable and taken advantage of? What about women who work the night shift and have to get to and from their car or public transport? What about women locked in their homes, and are assaulted by an intruder, what should they have done to prevent it? How about young boys at church or school, what should they have done? Old women in retirement homes? Women in the military?
[quote=Akonyo;44340637]This girl got drunk and passed out in a back alley. What did she think would happen? She needs to be more responsible. Hopefully, she learned her lesson after this incident.[
I would hope that golden boy learned his lesson .
By the way the woman tthat was raped wasn't in a back alley , she was on the campus of Stanford University one of the most elite universities in the world.
But at the end of the day, if a woman puts herself in a vulnerable position (passed out drunk) in a strange environment (not within the safety of her home or a friend's place) and without the company of friends, if she does get robbed, assaulted or raped... what good does it do to put the blame solely on the perpetrators? My comments are just to say that no woman should be counting on gentlemanly behaviour from every single man or person around her when she is inebriated and all by herself.
So you can argue all you like about where the blame should be distributed, but what does it matter after a rape occurs. The horse has long left the barn. But my posts are about trying to prevent future rapes. And a harsher punishment for Turner isn't going to stop future campus rapes. Women going to these parties need to stick together and only drink moderately. And not dress too sexy either... since when has anyone ever met their soulmate at these bashes? Women have to also stop being okay with the current casual hookup culture. FWB's are only for the benefit of the guys.
Good grief, we've gone from drink to dress! Women have been raped while wearing all types of clothes including jeans and flannel shirts. Are guys that captive to their hormones, that an attractively dressed woman gives them this insatiable urge to rape?
Okay, what about women who are drugged, what is your advice for them? Women who have a seizure or other medical emergency and are vulnerable and taken advantage of? What about women who work the night shift and have to get to and from their car or public transport? What about women locked in their homes, and are assaulted by an intruder, what should they have done to prevent it? How about young boys at church or school, what should they have done? Old women in retirement homes? Women in the military?
Should I go on? I've got all night.
You are off the rails, hun. Zebras aside, reality and common sense are important if we live in the this cold, cruel world. We are responsible for our decisions. We need to be smart and not put ourselves in harms way by being drunk, especially among drunk college boys. Common sense.
I'm not sure why this poster, miu, keeps engaging with you and others who are so dug in. Talking reality to some posters is a lost cause, and that is fine.
Last edited by texan2yankee; 06-08-2016 at 08:19 PM..
This girl got drunk and passed out in a back alley. What did she think would happen? She needs to be more responsible. Hopefully, she learned her lesson after this incident.
I would hope that golden boy learned his lesson .
By the way the woman tthat was raped wasn't in a back alley , she was on the campus of Stanford University one of the most elite universities in the world.
Right, and she says she has no idea how she got to the dumpster where she was raped. She was probably "escorted" there by Brockie-poo.
Brock Turner, the former Stanford University swimmer who was convicted last week of sexually assaulting an unconscious woman on campus, blamed the “party culture” of “college life” for his actions.
ABC News obtained a copy of Turner’s full statement to Judge Aaron Persky, who sentenced the 20-year-old to six months in county jail and three years of probation. Turner plans to appeal his conviction.
You are off the rails, hun. Zebras aside, reality and common sense are important if we live in the this cold, cruel world. I'm not sure why this poster keeps arguing with you and others who are so dug in. It is a lost cause.
Can you answer her question?
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