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If Brock had a couple more drinks and passed out, either staggering behind a dumpster and blacking out or being dragged there, and woke up pantless and anally violated (maybe with a dirty stick since that's assault and not real rape) by a frat brother, does anyone here honestly believe that the conversation would be, "Well what did he expect, drinking so much? You know how boys are. Are we sure he said no? I mean sure, he was unconscious, but before that it's really a gray area, right? Of course it's terrible, but he really is partially responsible for what happened." Would Brock's father think six months in jail (and serving only three) was just? It was only a few minutes of action after all, and that frat brother has such a promising future.
It turns out our sexual assaulter/rapist lied to the judge. He claimed that he was new to alcohol---that he had never encountered it in small-town Ohio. Actually, there are photos and cell phone records where he acknowledged using marijuana, alcohol, acid:
And even a record of substance abuse and lying didn't lead to the judge giving him a more severe sentence.
One of Turner's sisters doesn't think he should even do jail time because his "alcohol-fueled" actions will now prevent him from realizing his dreams of becoming an orthopedic surgeon (good thing he won't become a surgeon---too much temptation with more unconscious women!).
A family friend testified on his behalf, saying that incarceration would very likely result in someone who is malignantly hardened towards society." ??????? It seems he wasn't actually one of society's shining stars---he didn't respect societal norms of human decency (not assaulting an unconscious woman---what if there was a young woman lying unconscious from a seizure? Would she have been fair game?), so who cares how he feels about society? All we should care about is his behavior within society. And what about the woman he attacked? What if his (20 minutes of) action results in her being malignantly hardened against men? Maybe now she won't ever want sex because of this. But obviously, she isn't as rich and well-connected as he is).
Off topic---how would the father know it was 20 minutes of action? Was he there? Wasn't his son too drunk to know how long his encounter with the victim was? Since he was stopped before he actually penetrated her, could have been much less than 20 minutes. But perhaps that is part of the son's/dad's stud culture that he was going on for 20 minutes, even while drunk.
Another question: I've read that Turner has been consulting with his probation officer. He's not on probation yet. Perhaps he will be in three months, but doesn't he have to earn the right to be released early? Why a probation officer at this point?
It turns out our sexual assaulter/rapist lied to the judge. He claimed that he was new to alcohol---that he had never encountered it in small-town Ohio. Actually, there are photos and cell phone records where he acknowledged using marijuana, alcohol, acid:
And even a record of substance abuse and lying didn't lead to the judge giving him a more severe sentence.
One of Turner's sisters doesn't think he should even do jail time because his "alcohol-fueled" actions will now prevent him from realizing his dreams of becoming an orthopedic surgeon (good thing he won't become a surgeon---too much temptation with more unconscious women!).
A family friend testified on his behalf, saying that incarceration would very likely result in someone who is malignantly hardened towards society." ??????? It seems he wasn't actually one of society's shining stars---he didn't respect societal norms of human decency (not assaulting an unconscious woman---what if there was a young woman lying unconscious from a seizure? Would she have been fair game?), so who cares how he feels about society? All we should care about is his behavior within society. And what about the woman he attacked? What if his (20 minutes of) action results in her being malignantly hardened against men? Maybe now she won't ever want sex because of this. But obviously, she isn't as rich and well-connected as he is).
Off topic---how would the father know it was 20 minutes of action? Was he there? Wasn't his son too drunk to know how long his encounter with the victim was? Since he was stopped before he actually penetrated her, could have been much less than 20 minutes. But perhaps that is part of the son's/dad's stud culture that he was going on for 20 minutes, even while drunk.
Another question: I've read that Turner has been consulting with his probation officer. He's not on probation yet. Perhaps he will be in three months, but doesn't he have to earn the right to be released early? Why a probation officer at this point?
Hahaha, never encountered alcohol in a small town? Could that BE more of a lie? Small towns USA is where a high percentage of drinking & drug use happens. What a piece of utter lying s*it.
for all those who are saying "she was drunk what did she expect"?
a hangover, she expected a hangover!
drinking is not a crime, rape IS.
No joking matter but reminds me of the joke about "never gone to bed with an ugly woman...
... waken up with a few though!"
All to say there really is not telling what to expect from too much alcohol all too often, and/or that poor girl sure got what she "expected" then. A hangover to last a life time...
One of Turner's sisters doesn't think he should even do jail time because his "alcohol-fueled" actions will now prevent him from realizing his dreams of becoming an orthopedic surgeon (good thing he won't become a surgeon---too much temptation with more unconscious women!).
A family friend testified on his behalf, saying that incarceration would very likely result in someone who is malignantly hardened towards society." ??????? It seems he wasn't actually one of society's shining stars---he didn't respect societal norms of human decency (not assaulting an unconscious woman---what if there was a young woman lying unconscious from a seizure? Would she have been fair game?), so who cares how he feels about society? All we should care about is his behavior within society. And what about the woman he attacked? What if his (20 minutes of) action results in her being malignantly hardened against men? Maybe now she won't ever want sex because of this. But obviously, she isn't as rich and well-connected as he is).
When it comes to portraying the criminal as the victim and showing ZERO compassion towards the real victim, this family is second only to the Paterno's.
I love how the media paints him as the good old collegiate college simmer and use the words sexually assualted a woman in instead of using the word rape. They also kerp using his college photo instead of his mugshot smh. I see this time and time again
I love how the media paints him as the good old collegiate college simmer and use the words sexually assualted a woman in instead of using the word rape. They also kerp using his college photo instead of his mugshot smh. I see this time and time again
His mugshot is now online (finally). And the rape charge was thrown out; he was convicted of sexual assault. The FBI considers rape as “Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.” In California, rape is defined as someone using "physical force, intimidation, duress, or threats to persuade the victim to engage in sexual intercourse." In the case of Turner's rape of an unconscious woman, witnesses and testimony determined that Turner penetrated his victim with a foreign object, not a sexual organ. I believe he was charged with assault with intent to rape---the Swedish students probably prevented it from escalating to rape.
Surprised that the California definition requires actual sexual intercourse.....
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