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Old 07-17-2016, 08:06 PM
 
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It appears that he was radicalized but he was crazy but it appears his Muslim faith had nothing to do with this, looking for a cause and he found one.
How did his Muslim faith have nothing to do with it - if he was "radicalized" and was prodded into this specific action by other...Muslims?

The Prime Minister of France has said that people are saying that he quickly became radicalized by radical Islamic groups....that can't happen to me, because I am not Muslim. Islam clearly has something to do with it.

PC BS clouds brains. How can we solve the problem when we can't admit reality? Don't be afraid of offending people, be afraid of the deadly consequences from being dishonest when talking about radical Islamic terrorism.
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Old 07-17-2016, 09:39 PM
 
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It appears that he was radicalized but he was crazy but it appears his Muslim faith had nothing to do with this, looking for a cause and he found one.


...an astounding level of denial from you people. We really don't even have adequate vocabulary to describe your brand of obstinate, dangerous foolishness.
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Old 07-17-2016, 09:50 PM
 
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It appears that he was radicalized but he was crazy but it appears his Muslim faith had nothing to do with this, looking for a cause and he found one.
Jihadist: “We did this because our holy texts exhort us to to do it.”

Democrat: “No you didn’t.”

Jihadist: “Wait, what? Yes we did…”

Democrat: “No, this has nothing to do with religion. You guys are just using religion as a front for social and geopolitical reasons.”

Jihadist: “WHAT!? Did you even read our official statement? We give explicit Quranic justification. This is jihad, a holy crusade against pagans, blasphemers, and disbelievers.”

Democrat: “No, this is definitely not a Muslim thing. You guys are not true Muslims, and you defame a great religion by saying so.”

Jihadist: “Huh!? Who are you to tell us we’re not true Muslims!? Islam is literally at the core of everything we do, and we have implemented the truest most literal and honest interpretation of its founding texts. It is our very reason for being.”



Hope Muhammad doesn't turn the Democrats into the 72 virgins as a punishment for denying his Jihadists the credit they deserve.

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Old 07-18-2016, 03:58 AM
 
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Islam has no place in a civilized society.

France has one of the largest Muslim populations in the Western world, it is bound to suffer a lot more than US. The larger the Muslim population, the more Islamic terror attacks.

Viva France!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4LmGPg8ScQ
France used to be a very peaceful country.
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Old 07-18-2016, 06:14 AM
 
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France used to be a very peaceful country.
The prime minister of France has said that they have stopped 16 Muslim terrorist attacks before they happened in the past 3 years.

Imagine how less peaceful France would be if they weren't turning into an overburdening police state to deal with the religion of peace inside their borders.
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Old 07-18-2016, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Florida
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France used to be a very peaceful country.
When?
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Old 07-18-2016, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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How did his Muslim faith have nothing to do with it - if he was "radicalized" and was prodded into this specific action by other...Muslims?

The Prime Minister of France has said that people are saying that he quickly became radicalized by radical Islamic groups....that can't happen to me, because I am not Muslim. Islam clearly has something to do with it.

PC BS clouds brains. How can we solve the problem when we can't admit reality? Don't be afraid of offending people, be afraid of the deadly consequences from being dishonest when talking about radical Islamic terrorism.
He was on the fringe, he didn't attend a mosque, drank alchohol, medicated and he was seeing a psychiatrist. That is not your prototype attackers as in Hebdo and the other attacks. I don't see anything that puts him as a main stream Muslim. He was a crazy person that happened to be Muslim, looked on youtube and found a cause and became radicalized. Let's not confuse this with religious fervor.
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Old 07-18-2016, 06:59 AM
 
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It appears that he was radicalized but he was crazy but it appears his Muslim faith had nothing to do with this, looking for a cause and he found one.
The guy viewed lots of ISIS murder videos prior to this act. He also had evidence on his phone that he was a bisexual. He was a petty criminal. He was very Westernized. He was mentally unstable, with anger issues. This is exactly the type that ISIS is attractive too, a person born into the Muslim faith who has strayed over the years. They offer instant forgiveness by waging jihad on infidels.

The woman in Belgium killed in her apartment after the Paris attacks in November was the same - born Muslim who slept around and did drugs. Then she helped people carry out the murders of 130 people, for ISIS.

Who else but the mentally ill would be attracted to an organization that promises them they can commit rape, torture, and murder against fellow human beings and be rewarded for it in Heaven?
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Old 07-18-2016, 07:07 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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He was on the fringe, he didn't attend a mosque, drank alchohol, medicated and he was seeing a psychiatrist. That is not your prototype attackers as in Hebdo and the other attacks. I don't see anything that puts him as a main stream Muslim. He was a crazy person that happened to be Muslim, looked on youtube and found a cause and became radicalized. Let's not confuse this with religious fervor.
You yourself said he was a "radicalized Muslim". If that is not religious fervor then ?????? It wasn't Donald Duck or Mickey Mouse videos that sent him on his killing spree.
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Old 07-18-2016, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The guy viewed lots of ISIS murder videos prior to this act. He also had evidence on his phone that he was a bisexual. He was a petty criminal. He was very Westernized. He was mentally unstable, with anger issues. This is exactly the type that ISIS is attractive too, a person born into the Muslim faith who has strayed over the years. They offer instant forgiveness by waging jihad on infidels.

The woman in Belgium killed in her apartment after the Paris attacks in November was the same - born Muslim who slept around and did drugs. Then she helped people carry out the murders of 130 people, for ISIS.

Who else but the mentally ill would be attracted to an organization that promises them they can commit rape, torture, and murder against fellow human beings and be rewarded for it in Heaven?
This was not main stream as some of the others were, he was crazy the others not so much in the clinical sense. They spent years of planning leading up to the attacks, visited mosques. I am not arguing that he wasn't radicalized by ISIS, just making the point that it had little to do with religion and more to do with mental illness.
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