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Old 08-11-2016, 11:36 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Isn't that quite clear in the 2nd Amendment. It wasn't a secret then and it isn't a secret now.
What is the 2nd Amendment telling the government? We will kill you! The tree of liberty will be nourished with the blood of bullies.
Actually, that would be Indians, British, French, Spanish, pirates, etc. The security of the state is the point of the 2A.
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Old 08-11-2016, 11:38 AM
 
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Wasn't sure about you. Anyway, the fact remains that guns are manufactured to kill and cars are manufactured for commuting. Other uses are incidental. Sounds like you understand but are unwilling to "say it." It's all good.

Only those that are afraid or are against firearms are intent on what they are designed for. So by your logic, the mere fact that someone has one means they want to kill someone. And that logic is flawed.
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Old 08-11-2016, 11:39 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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You're making a false equivalence. Guns =/= cars. So your argument died in the starting gates.


firearms is a Constitutionally protected right, vehicles are not.
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Old 08-11-2016, 11:42 AM
 
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the # of alcohol related deaths in this country is 88,000 a year.

EIGHTY EIGHT THOUSAND DEATHS
per year - according to the CDC website

https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-he...and-statistics

241 people die every day in this country from alcohol.

241 die EVERY DAY
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Old 08-11-2016, 11:45 AM
 
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Only those that are afraid or are against firearms are intent on what they are designed for. So by your logic, the mere fact that someone has one means they want to kill someone. And that logic is flawed.
The intent of the owner is irrelevant. Guns are manufactured to kill. It sounds like you agree and our only issue is intent of the gun owner.
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Old 08-11-2016, 11:46 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Actually, that would be Indians, British, French, Spanish, pirates, etc. The security of the state is the point of the 2A.
A Free State is maintained, how? If the individual can't get it done, the militia will.
Arms of all configurations were and still are designed to kill efficiently.

Liberty gets scary everyday, in the land of the controlled.
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Old 08-11-2016, 11:53 AM
 
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the # of alcohol related deaths in this country is 88,000 a year.

EIGHTY EIGHT THOUSAND DEATHS
per year - according to the CDC website

https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-he...and-statistics

241 people die every day in this country from alcohol.

241 die EVERY DAY
By the way that does not include any death induced by consuming alcohol.

Nobody can tell me any legitimate use of consuming alcohol. There's none.
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Old 08-11-2016, 11:53 AM
 
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The intent of the owner is irrelevant. Guns are manufactured to kill. It sounds like you agree and our only issue is intent of the gun owner.
I don't agree.


A Peaceably Armed Orygunner: The primary purpose of guns - Killing? Nope.
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Old 08-11-2016, 11:54 AM
 
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They also want to sue gun makers but not automobile makers in cases of criminal intent or negligence such as dui cases.
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Old 08-11-2016, 11:54 AM
 
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By the way that does not include any death induced by consuming alcohol.

Nobody can tell me any legitimate use of consuming alcohol. There's none.

Bourbon pairs so well with my cigars though....
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