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There's a reason factory job openings are at 15+ year highs, it's because none of them pay for crap anymore... if you want people to assemble your products and aren't starting them at at least $13 per hour, you might as well just outsource the whole thing to china.. the manufacturing environment in many places these days is a joke... low pay with a push you to work to the bone, at least this is what I hear from my father's friends who were laid off from their job they had 30+ years when they finally shut the plant down and looking at getting new jobs in manufacturing. My father was making $26/hour and he'll never find that pay again so he may just retire.
Me I'm lucky to make $20+ per hour in manufacturing with no college under my belt. I'll stay where I'm at. Lots of sit down time too!
Don't blame illegals, blame the companies who hire them
I agree, but it's gotten so bad this is the new reality ---> our friends had a painting company that refused for a decade to hire illegals and only hired Americans. Last year they finally had to hire illegals or go out of business.
All construction related companies hire illegals including painting companies -- our friends were losing way too much business because their bids always came in too high without having illegals.
It was that or go out of business. Very sad...
THESE STORIES NEVER GET COVERED BY THE MEDIA!
Citizenship is one of just a few jobs government is actually authorized to determine.
When government fails to hear the people, we get people like Donald Trump, saying things more than 2/3 are saying, that government has failed to hear, for the best interest of their bank accounts.
Government failing to listen to the people, got us Donald Trump in the position he is in today.
Liberals want the government involved in everything but the actual responsibilities of the government. Pathetic to say enforcing Americas borders is big government.
I blame those in government. I would be doing the same if I was an employer, because I would basically have to in order to compete. I can't blame the illegals for wanting a better life either. Government must have strict laws and enforce them.
Facts- the corporations have lobbied not to have criminal charges implemented on
failed I-9 inspections and also they can negotiate the fines. They cannot be forced to use E-verify. Cannot get Social security to give up those double entries. Like one employee working in Florida, and same social shows working same day in Texas and - cannot get IRS to give up shyte! They know ... Many unclaimed taxes - nobody ever files for them and employers have deducted the money.
Many people just refuse to deal in facts. The main culprits are employers- the aliens just hungry. Now the criminal element like drugs n human trafficking. See consumer
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I agree, but it's gotten so bad this is the new reality ---> our friends had a painting company that refused for a decade to hire illegals and only hired Americans. Last year they finally had to hire illegals or go out of business.
All construction related companies hire illegals including painting companies -- our friends were losing way too much business because their bids always came in too high without having illegals.
It was that or go out of business. Very sad...
THESE STORIES NEVER GET COVERED BY THE MEDIA!
Then they should have gone out of business. Breaking the law is unacceptable.
You are really bad at reasoning things out. Burglary laws are enforced.
I see it went right over your head.
The point is that some in here only want to blame our government and the greedy employers when the illegal aliens are just as guilty. They are their willing accomplices.
You don't seriously think that the contractors that employ illegal roofers are passing the savings on to their customers instead of pocketing the difference?
If you buy that argument, I'd like to talk to you about a bridge I can sell you....CHEAP!
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