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Old 09-05-2016, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Don't blame illegals, blame the companies who hire them
Don't blame the companies that hire them. Blame the politicians beginning with Reagan who refuse to allow standing laws to be enforced.
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Old 09-05-2016, 12:54 PM
 
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How hard working they might be is irrelevant.

How are illegals doing roofing for minimum wage (or less) when an American would be paid $18.00 an hour (or more) "part of the solution" ?
They are if you need a roof.
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Old 09-05-2016, 12:55 PM
 
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"I want to pay more for my groceries, lawn care, house painting, etc.", said no consumer ever.

When you factor in the $113 billion a year that illegals cost us, loss of jobs and reduced wages no one is getting anything cheaper except for those who hire them.
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Old 09-05-2016, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Right lol Many Americans willingly gave their jobs up to them in order to collect welfare
Your contempt for Americans is palpable. You should find another more suitable country to live in.
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Old 09-05-2016, 12:57 PM
 
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They are if you need a roof.

Breaking the law by hiring illegal aliens is not a savings when you factor in what illegals cost us in taxes. I've seen a lot of shoddy workmanship by illegals also.
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Old 09-05-2016, 01:00 PM
 
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Don't blame the companies that hire them. Blame the politicians beginning with Reagan who refuse to allow standing laws to be enforced.

I see, so because you didn't lock your front door you and you alone are to blame for having it ransacked but not the thief and his accomplice?
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Old 09-05-2016, 01:06 PM
 
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You are correct.

The H2A Temporary AG Worker visa requires the worker to be paid the higher of Federal Minimum or State Minimum Wage. H2A visa holders may also seek admission of their spouce and children under 18 who are not able to legally work. That has not prevented spouses and children from increasing the output of the visa worker.

Undocumented workers tend to be paid by the weight of their production and as such are a better bang for the $.

Curious to know why you continually call them "undocumented"? The lawful immigration term for them is illegal aliens. If you are opposed to illegal immigration as you claim then why would you want to use PC language that is used by the pro-illegal crowd?
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Old 09-05-2016, 01:24 PM
 
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Your contempt for Americans is palpable. You should find another more suitable country to live in.
You should face the reality that more Americans are dependent on the welfare state than ever. My contempt is for it.

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When you factor in the $113 billion a year that illegals cost us, loss of jobs and reduced wages no one is getting anything cheaper except for those who hire them.
I think you just made that up.

Note: I think people coming here for freebies are parasites.
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Old 09-05-2016, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I see, so because you didn't lock your front door you and you alone are to blame for having it ransacked but not the thief and his accomplice?
You are really bad at reasoning things out. Burglary laws are enforced.
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Old 09-05-2016, 03:09 PM
 
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You are really bad at reasoning things out. Burglary laws are enforced.

Labor laws should be honored, w/o needing enforcement, just as all laws should be.


Criminals are low lifes, whether the thug who commits a violent crime, the drug pusher the burglar, or the white collar guy knowingly hiring illegals.
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