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Old 09-15-2016, 06:17 PM
 
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Yep
Just like with Big Pharma
We can illegally buy drugs over the border but their protector in big government will arrest us

Big Business wants all the protections of Big Government via the Military, Managed Trade Agreements with nations where workers have no rights under capitalism, but none of the expenses that go along with it
Mylan Pharmaceuticals move overseas to avoid taxes but still want the American court system protect their patents and what not.
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Old 09-15-2016, 06:28 PM
 
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Mylan Pharmaceuticals move overseas to avoid taxes but still want the American court system protect their patents and what not.
And they have a boat load of lobbyists I bet in DC protecting their Global Interests

They want all the protections Nationalism Provides but none of the expenses that go along with it while preaching Globalism

I this juncture, it would be best if we disbanded our government and military and let these free loading corporations pay for their own protection, infrastructure to move their products between ports and highways and so on.

Local Business will come back and give these welfare cases the finger
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Old 09-15-2016, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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So it looks as if the story is not true. Today the CEO of Ford has denied Trump's claims and indicates that they are not moving production - they are just shifting vehicle types being built in Mexico and the U.S.

Ford CEO: Donald Trump is wrong about Mexico - Sep. 15, 2016
Ford is investing their 5th factory in Mexico, They currently employ 8,800 jobs in Mexico they will be adding 2,800 new jobs. That doesn't benefit U.S. workers. If small compact car production is down move factories within the U.S., don't leave and build a 1.6 billion dollar factory in Mexico.

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Old 09-16-2016, 06:05 AM
 
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I've seen the assembly line in Youngstown, Ohio (GM). One of our 4-H members worked in the paint shop. He arranged a tour. I can tell you, those people don't do enough to earn the money that they do. He pushed buttons (by his own description) and many of the other line workers do too. Others simply hook up a few hoses or cable harnesses and such, and step back to wait for the next car. Takes them five minutes or less for each car. At that time (this was years ago) they were making about $40/hr plus benefits.

That is quite laughable. First off, stepping into a plant that is running production is very dangerous. It is definitely not a safe environment, despite what people think. Sure there are some "button pushing" jobs but not many. Walk out to your own vehicle and look at all the components, for instance look at your center console. Imagine , having to pick that up , bend over , hook any kind of wiring up, set it down, then fasten it. Sounds pretty easy right ? Now do it 500 times today. Get back to me on that.


Plant work is physically exhausting work, and not the best ergonomically. That is why in our designs we have to plan and think how the component will be installed so it isn't so hard on the worker.
And you are way off on that pay. A skilled tradesmen can get that wage, but that is a highly skilled person with schooling and possibly a degree.


FCA Fiat Chrysler Automobiles Hourly Pay
Job TitleFCA Fiat Chrysler Automobiles Salary
Production Operator $17.01
hrAssembly Worker $24.13
Product Engineer - Contractor$35.04
Assembly Line Worker$17.24
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Old 09-16-2016, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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It makes sense for any auto manufacturer to assemble cars/ trucks in the countries with the most sales or countries with more free trade agreements with other countries.

Ford Motors has been a multi- national company for 100 years. They are in the business of selling cars and trucks, globally.

The Ford Focus is presently assembled in Germany, Thailand, China, Taiwan, Argentina, Russia and Michigan.

Ford sold 826,000 Ford Focus cars in 2015. Only 25% of those care were sold in the US. 2016 YTD US sales are running less than 5% of total global sales.

Labor costs aside, it makes business sense to assemble the Focus in the country with the most free trade agreements with the rest of the world, Mexico.
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Old 09-16-2016, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Ford confirms small car production moving from US to Mexico - KTAR.com

...the company expects to make higher profits because of the lower wages in Mexico.
Welcome to the Trump Train Michigan....that puts 'The Donald' over the top ....President Trump.
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Old 09-16-2016, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Ford is investing their 5th factory in Mexico, They currently employ 8,800 jobs in Mexico they will be adding 2,800 new jobs. That doesn't benefit U.S. workers. If small compact car production is down move factories within the U.S., don't leave and build a 1.6 billion dollar factory in Mexico.
An auto manufacturer needs to sell their product to global consumers to survive.

Ford has been a multi national company for 100 years, with assembly plants all over the world. They seek to sell their product to the maximum number of global consumers.

In 2015, US sales of Ford Focus was about 25% of global sales. YTD, 2016 US sales are less than 5 % of global sales.

Production is customized to meet the unique needs / laws of the destination country.

The majority of the Focus line has been assembled offshore in the countries with the most sales and exported to countries whose numbers do not justify an assembly plant.

Labor costs aside, it makes more sense for Ford to assemble the Focus in the country with the most free trade agreements with the rest of the world to ensure the Focus product is competitive with other brands. That country is Mexico.

Moving small car assembly from Michigan to another US state does not compute - does not make their cars more competitive in a global market.
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Old 09-16-2016, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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What the hell kind of country do we live in where a Toyota or Honda is more American than a Chevrolet? Crazy times!

I don't care what anyone says about Mexico being the same quality as other places. VWs purchased in Europe are excellent vehicles. The vehicles produced in Mexico (made for the US) are definitely a lower grade.

Since production costs will be lower, I wonder if they will pass on these savings to the consumer? We all know the answer to that question!
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Old 09-16-2016, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Since production costs will be lower, I wonder if they will pass on these savings to the consumer? We all know the answer to that question!


If protective tariffs are not in play they have no choice but to pass much of the savings on to the consumer.
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Old 09-16-2016, 04:02 PM
 
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Fiat Chrysler has done the same. The story says "car" production, but I've been told it is just the small car segment.


Fiat Chrysler ending car production in U.S.




More gutting of the middle class. Globalism is good, mmkay.
Let them go..........their cars are POS.
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