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Old 09-15-2016, 08:19 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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You can start by thinking, "What if my job was outsourced?" But of course those who have difficulty with this concept say to themselves, "My job can never be outsourced" so, seldom cross that bridge.
Ill find a new job, I am among the 40% of Americans who have an Associate's Degree or higher. If not, I will use my savings to go back to college and get a Bachelor's degree and open up even more opportunities. It's called picking oneself up by the bootstraps instead sitting around whining and hoping for Big Government Daddy Trump to come coddle me.
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:23 AM
 
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Some trade deals might be bad for a small group of American workers - the ones that lose their jobs when the factories close or move overseas. However, for the vast majority of Americans these trade deals result in them paying significantly lower prices for almost every product that they purchase.


I personally don't want to spend extra money so factory workers in the Rust Belt can keep their jobs and overinflated paychecks. If an uneducated person living in a third world country can do your job, that should be a clear sign that you need to obtain more education and new job skills. If anyone is stupid enough to skip out on educating themselves and not prepare for careers that can't be done by third world peasants, they deserve little sympathy. Just because some people believe that Americans have a divine right to earn 60k a year putting cars together in a factory does not mean that other Americans need to pay for it.


You are aware that many plants have skilled trades and management aren't you ? A skilled tradesmen is the equivalent of a degreed person. Management have degree's, and some of the assembly line people do as well, since the job pays more than what their degree would get them.


Have you ever stepped inside a plant ? Have you ever done something extremely repetitive, no matter how simple, it gets old and isn't as easy as one thinks.
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:26 AM
 
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^ this I don't understand why people cannot grasp this concept.



You must be a business owner, in a skilled trade or a trust fund baby. If not , I wonder if you will be singing the same tune when your job is offshored or outsourced.
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I have no loyalty to my company. Someone else offers me a better package I am gone in two weeks.
hmm okay, again, it is not just about you.
I've never worked for somebody, I am a trustfund baby. This thread has nothing to do with individual CD posters.

I think there are certain steps companies can take to maximize profit or minimize loss. Profits At High, Wages At Low - is not the right way to do it. Just my opinion.

Why are corporate profits so high? One reason is that companies are paying employees less than they ever have as a share of GDP. And that, in turn, is one reason the economy is so weak. (I said ONE reason. I didn't say the ONLY reason.)
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I have no loyalty to my company. Someone else offers me a better package I am gone in two weeks.
It's called At-Will Employment, legal in all states except Montana. Either the employee or employer may terminate employment for any legal or no reason.
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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The CONCEPT of free trade is good. I will admit that.

HOWEVER, here is always a big BUT

Freeing up trade does not “open new markets†as much as it enables giant, multinational corporations to become even more giant and more multinational – at the expense of smaller companies and the rest of us.

Economists say that free trade allows us to take advantage of the “comparative advantages†offered by other countries. Here’s the thing. Buying goods from low-wage and low-environmental protection countries means not making them here anymore. “Trade†increases, but so does our country’s trade deficit as imports rise and exports fall. Factories here close, people here get laid off, wage pressures here increase and overall demand in our economy decreases.

A healthy balance must be achieved somehow.
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:43 AM
 
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If Mexicans have high IQ and work ethic like the Chinese, there will be virtually no job left in USA.
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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If Mexicans have high IQ and work ethic like the Chinese, there will be virtually no job left in USA.
I am not a big fan of Chinese work ethic. If we must generalize, Mexican work ethic is just as good, if not better, compare to other ethnic groups.
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Old 09-15-2016, 08:57 AM
 
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Ill find a new job, I am among the 40% of Americans who have an Associate's Degree or higher. If not, I will use my savings to go back to college and get a Bachelor's degree and open up even more opportunities. It's called picking oneself up by the bootstraps instead sitting around whining and hoping for Big Government Daddy Trump to come coddle me.
I rest my case padawan.
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Old 09-15-2016, 09:23 AM
 
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Ill find a new job, I am among the 40% of Americans who have an Associate's Degree or higher. If not, I will use my savings to go back to college and get a Bachelor's degree and open up even more opportunities. It's called picking oneself up by the bootstraps instead sitting around whining and hoping for Big Government Daddy Trump to come coddle me.

I remember almost having to do that in '07 when the auto industry took a dive. While sitting in a seminar put on by our state unemployment office the speaker rattled off a number of what some of these new careers started at. After hearing the number I was like, not too bad...I then asked the speaker if that figure was hourly...he laughed and said no yearly. I wasn't so excited then.


You seem to forget that many in the workforce today have been in it for a long time, back then you didn't need a piece of paper to ensure your employer that you could do the job. Many learned on the job.
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