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Old 09-15-2016, 02:36 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Sending jobs overseas eliminates numerous other linked jobs which support the industry. Then there is the peripheral industries which are affected due to the loss of the workers above. It is akin to fallout following a blast
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Old 09-15-2016, 02:51 AM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Sad to see American companies build brand new billion dollar factories in Mexico. This is so wrong, we need congress to create major penalties and fines for this.
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Old 09-15-2016, 03:22 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Sad to see American companies build brand new billion dollar factories in Mexico. This is so wrong, we need congress to create major penalties and fines for this.
Or we just buy American made cars from Toyota.
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Old 09-15-2016, 05:21 AM
 
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Trade and Banking Lobbyists all for trade with slave labor nations will eventually run out of other peoples money. We are in debt because the consumer no longer has the money to support sky high medical, housing and tuition prices


Lobbyists for Wall Street and Corporations want to continue to have high prices here at home for these things while throwing the people that would buy those things under the bus by employing slave labor elsewhere instead.

The math does not work.

The top wealthy from these policies need to take a paycut.

I never met a poor person that purchased a politician
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Old 09-15-2016, 05:29 AM
 
Location: USA
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Trump, who made some of his own stuff overseas.

Trump’s ‘Made in the USA’ Spin
Correct, but facts are looked upon poorly in this forum. But we're to believe that Trump, the clown who made his fortune exploiting the current system is magically going to change it and destroy his own power base if elected... because that's something that happens, supposedly. Right...

Where are the cries from the far-right in support of Ford? After all, we're also to believe that industry is perfect, government is evil, and the only reason big business guts our jobs is because of "taxes and regulation," not because of the staggeringly lower wages and living standards in the places they are moving the jobs.

If only the US could be like Mexico, we'd get all the jobs back. Oh, wait - there's a chance for that - vote Trump!
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Old 09-15-2016, 05:35 AM
 
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Trade and Banking Lobbyists all for trade with slave labor nations will eventually run out of other peoples money. We are in debt because the consumer no longer has the money to support sky high medical, housing and tuition prices


Lobbyists for Wall Street and Corporations want to continue to have high prices here at home for these things while throwing the people that would buy those things under the bus by employing slave labor elsewhere instead.

The math does not work.
The math works fine.

Medical costs -- you don't need it. Just die early.

Tuition -- always a fresh crop of young people to go into debt.

Housing -- Wall Street will buy any affordable houses and rent them to you at a premium.

Anyone who is sitting around waiting on this system to collapse is in for a long wait.
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Old 09-15-2016, 05:39 AM
 
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It must be a lot of profit to move there as they are spending $1.6 billion to build a new
Manufactoring plant there.
They will be hiring poorly educated and low skilled workers and paying dirt cheap without U.S. Regulations, so how many recalls of their cars are we gonna see now????
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Old 09-15-2016, 05:40 AM
 
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I guess you will be voting for Trump.

Absolutely correct. He may come across as a buffoon, and if elected will be fought at ever turn by Congress. But when it comes to picking a Supreme court justice or two, or three I feel he will pick ones that are on the right side of things. I don't think that with HRC, or Johnson.
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Old 09-15-2016, 05:42 AM
 
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The goal has never been to provide jobs. The goal has always been to increase shareholder wealth.

There are a few closely held corporations that behave differently, but most stockholders want a return on their investment.
What has happened to Ford? They used to be a good citizen of the United States AND they provided a good dividend.

The company that refused to make a dollar of profit off WWII. The company that refused government money after WWII to retool back to car production from war production. The company that refused gov bailout money in 2008 when GM took every dime they could.

Why are they stabbing us in the back now?
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Old 09-15-2016, 05:51 AM
 
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Are we still suppose to buy these cars from these "american" automakers? My Toyota Camry is made in the US.



What some seem to forget , or just don't know is assembly is the small portion of it. Sure it sucks seeing these jobs go over the border but for those that keep bleating "buy Nissan, buy Toyota, buy Honda !" they may be assembled here in the US but where is the R&D done ? Sure the Asian OEM's have R&D centers here in the US, I've worked at two of them but not ALL the models sold here are designed and engineered here. That is where the majority of the workforce is. Designers, Engineers, Suppliers and their workers etc. , tier after tier of people that are involved in the R&D of a vehicle. So that assembled in the US Brand X mobile might have employed many more foreign workers than you think.
So even though you are buying an assembled in MX vehicle, the majority of the people involved in that vehicle were US workers, and that is where I'm putting my money.


For the record, I'm a designer in the automotive industry.
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