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Old 10-05-2016, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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I only drink Fiji. If I go to a restaurant, I'll drink their tap but any other time I insist on Fiji.
I carry my bottle of Fiji everywhere I go. In a restaurant I take out my bottle of Fiji, refuse the tap water. Some restaurants filter out water but MOST filters do not filter out fluorides. A whole other scam/fraud against the people.

 
Old 10-05-2016, 12:00 PM
 
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That is great that your "C was cured. I have a friend now going into other drugs and she hopes for the same..but the "C" as she told me the other day is spreading.

Two other friends are going with holistic protocols for the BC they are dealing with. So far so good for them. It's taking work on their parts.
Um, but you started this thread saying the medical industry doesn't want to cure people.

Yes or no, are you telling your friends not to take drugs or go see doctors? It's kinda a conviction moment for you if you run around making such claims and feel they aren't trying to heal them...have you warned your friends that the doctors and hospitals are scamming them?
 
Old 10-05-2016, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities (StP)
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It's a huge game that has been going on for decades.

There was talking about "curing" the common cold when I was a kid.

And forget that "run for cancer cures". Cancer is mega business.

My sister counted on mega $1000's in drugs to slow down the MS she is challenged with, she is
totally worse and has so declined.

It's NOT in the Industry's best interests to CURE AND HEAL. They have to answer to stockholders, major pharma companies....

Keep developing drugs to keep more bandaids going, keep patients coming back.

And Keep THEM all employed.

A game they play and MOST fall for it.


Pharma Industry isn't the only game in town, but a huge one.


Do you really expect doctors should be able to cure MS?
 
Old 10-05-2016, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I don't tell anyone what to do. I offer suggestions but people do what they do.

I know what I've done and what I do now. And know enough pharma drugs that did damage and so I woke up to getting to the root of issues and not slap drugs on the issues...which are bandaids...more bandaids keep doctors fat and happy. One drug gives side effects, so another drug is given to counter those side effects...it's a vicious cycle and more $$$.

MD's talk very little about nutrition and true many tell their patients to quit smoking. Thank goodness and many do and many don't quit.

MD's go for the script books to write expensive drugs. I don't buy into that path anymore...but I did for some years.

10 yrs of anti depressant drugs when it was thyroid all along and with 4 doctors telling me I was fine cause my numbers are good. We are symptoms not numbers. Many have health issues due to a dsyfunctional thyroid. Every doctor says something different. One endo had me swallow water and said my thyroid is fine. One endo said you are fine but have Fibromyalgia.
 
Old 10-05-2016, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Do you really expect doctors should be able to cure MS?
I know 3 people with MS. One in my town who does pretty well with LDN and a drug or so. She went to dominican republic years ago and paid for stem cells.

Another online friend works with her MS with LDN and many supplements and maintains.

My sister listened to NYC specialists and spent $1000's on their drugs and is so declined. Very sad.

Foods and MS are critical..eliminate sugars/carbs big time...keep candida out of the body.

A supplement called Sphingolin which I've taken for nerve damage from hip replacement is now being talked about for MS patients. My guess is no MD's talk about this supplement. This supplement took away the burn I was left with due to nerve damage. A naturopath put me onto Sphingolin.

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Old 10-05-2016, 12:34 PM
 
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There are cures--thanks to the antibiotic revolution (we are now moving out of as bacterial diseases mutate and become drug resistant to our drugs today)--for some bacterial diseases like a number of sexually transmitted diseases. Total cures and not merely remissions.

One problem in science is that in practice it often functions like theology in that a set doctrine can not be challenged, and therefore young scientists might be taught to look for and address a problem per a route that is not the right way to be going about the problem solving.

That is not to say all the laws and theories in science need to not be believed. However, it is good to question some things and at the risk of error see if what is taught as virtual dogma might be disproven. That might be simply a method or route to solving a problem dealing with cancer or some disease or disorder. Questioning that method or route and seeing if a more novel one you've conceputalized might work to any degree at all.

I'm a big fan of modern medicine and modern medical care. There have been tremendous advancements over the decades and centuries. But my one issue with modern day practice of medicine is that it emphasizes on treating people after they get ill, rather than a greater emphasis on the prevention of getting ill. But the latter really has a lot more to do with adequate exercise, good diet, clean healthy water to drink, and reducing the stresses in life (the last one is hard as modern American life is built on stress).

The profit motivation in the pharmaceutical industry is something else to look at. Profit motivations can be good in stimulating researchers and companies to find cures, investment of money and man power in doing so, but it can "unjustly" result in certain medical or psychological problems getting far more attention (financially and in research) than other medical and psychological problems.
 
Old 10-05-2016, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Antiobiotics are given out like M&M's. I read so much how so much resistance now due to being overloaded with abx drugs. How many MD's advise taking probiotics when handing out those drugs?
 
Old 10-05-2016, 12:58 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Antiobiotics are given out like M&M's. I read so much how so much resistance now due to being overloaded with abx drugs. How many MD's advise taking probiotics when handing out those drugs?

why would they?
 
Old 10-05-2016, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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why don't they. Due to this overload of abx drugs many end up with yeast overgrowth which leads to many health issues. If a person is not up on all this they are open for more health issues.
 
Old 10-05-2016, 01:56 PM
 
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I carry my bottle of Fiji everywhere I go. In a restaurant I take out my bottle of Fiji, refuse the tap water. Some restaurants filter out water but MOST filters do not filter out fluorides. A whole other scam/fraud against the people.
Yeah they probably don't but at home it's either tap or bottled water so I get more water that way. We have had a faucet filter but everytime we get one they suck. We got the pitcher filter now though so hopefully it won't be too difficult to set up.
As much as it would be preferable to drink Fiji all the time, number one it's not carried everywhere and secondly, it's VERY expensive and the water at the restaurants is free.
But I definitely don't go out to eat at restaurants that much so my exposure is minimal.


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I know enough people who eat pretty healthy diets....what is perfect and who can do that? And still take supplements to fill gaps that much of our poor foods can't fill. Great if everyone ate organics but many complain about costs. I work with organics as much as I can.
Eating a diet healthy enough to prevent you from needing the supplements is pretty much impossible these days. As much as I'm eerie about the taste, I have thought about buying grass fed hamburger but WOW the price of that compared to the regular hamburger is ridiculous.
The supplements I find are cheaper in the long run than always taking the foods that have those vitamins. It is better to have the food itself if you can but sometimes it's not always possible especially when a supplement doesn't really go bad and many foods can go bad shortly.

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How many MD's advise taking probiotics when handing out those drugs?
They don't and I notice when I say I'm taking a probiotic that the pharmacist tends to agree that is a good idea. The people in the medical industry know what antibiotics do to your system but they just don't advertise it.
Thing is I have always taken a probiotic with an antibiotic but I still ended up with a yeast infection. I think it's true that even with a probiotic you still can't replace all your good bacteria.
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