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Old 10-17-2019, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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You're the one making the assertion, "easily millions". The burden of proof is on you. Don't you have google?
See above.

 
Old 10-17-2019, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Originally Posted by Katarina Witt View Post
Names? You want people's names? Aside from the fact that you obviously don't understand epidemiology, which deals with groups, not individuals, there is such a thing as patient privacy. It's the law here in the US, plus I'd guess in most other countries as well.
https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/index.html
Here are some stats:
https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/11/01...lly-2000-12072

"the CDC calculated the number of deaths that are still occurring worldwide due to measles"


How many measles vaccine patents does the CDC own?
 
Old 10-17-2019, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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"


How many measles vaccine patents does the CDC own?
zero
 
Old 10-17-2019, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Information about vaccine patents owned by the CDC.



https://youtu.be/98wCc3HIxB4
 
Old 10-17-2019, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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There are partnerships which spend money in order to find and discover medications and vaccines.

Which, again save millions of lives and ease the suffering of countless more.

Pray tell why do you find yourself not liking any of this which helps people?
 
Old 10-17-2019, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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There are partnerships which spend money in order to find and discover medications and vaccines.

Which, again save millions of lives and ease the suffering of countless more.

Pray tell why do you find yourself not liking any of this which helps people?

It has never helped me or anyone that I know. It has harmed me and some of the people I know.
 
Old 10-17-2019, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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zero
Beat me to it.
 
Old 10-17-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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Every patient is unique in their medical needs. So ask the doc your questions. BP can be too low if for instance you have dizziness upon standing. Otherwise a low BP is usually beneficial. Lower than 60 diastolic may be too low. Ask the doc. About the same with cholesterol if you have cardiovascular disease. If the meds are cheap and side effect free, you might as well take a minimal dose if you are at high risk.

Most cases of hypertension and high cholesterol can only be treated, not yet cured. It sounds like your husband is getting fine treatment, but it may be that some of his meds can be discontinued. Ask the doc.
I am not asking my husband's doctor anything. HE is the patient and it is up to him to ask questions of his doctor.
 
Old 10-17-2019, 09:58 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Katarina Witt View Post
Names? You want people's names? Aside from the fact that you obviously don't understand epidemiology, which deals with groups, not individuals, there is such a thing as patient privacy. It's the law here in the US, plus I'd guess in most other countries as well.
https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/index.html
Here are some stats:
https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/11/01...lly-2000-12072
The comment is in regard to the HPV advertisement. Not measles.

Stay on topic.
 
Old 10-17-2019, 10:11 AM
 
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Follow the money. My SIL passed away 2 years ago from Frontal Lobe Dementia. While in the hospital and only given about 6 months to live, she was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. Doctors said she "needed" her ovaries removed. They badgered the family into this totally unnecessary surgery. The poor woman was already dying from Dementia. Why put her through this? For WHAT? Making more money from her insurance. SIL lived 6 months after her ovaries were removed. The surgery saved her life? It bought her more time? In the best interests of the patient? I don't think so.
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