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Old 11-29-2016, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Centennial, CO
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Burning a flag is an ACT. It is not SPEECH.
Giving money to a politician is an act, too, but the Supreme Court rules that it is protected under "free speech", and also that Corporations are PEOPLE. So apparently according to the law an act CAN be considered speech (and by the way, that was what was ruled by the Supreme Court in 1989 regarding flag burning). See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Johnson

It's a twisted world we live in.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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No, you just want the government to lock me up if I exercise a First Amendment right.
forget it. believe what you want to believe.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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It's freedom of speech.

BTW, if some of you people are going to flip out at every ridiculous tweet Trump sends out, you're in for a rough 4 to 8 years.

I'm not sure how some of you make it from day to day. If you haven't been able to figure out that Trump is a person who spouts off before thinking, you must have horrendous people skills. I've had to be around people like that my entire life.

There is a good expression befitting what Trump spouts off, take it with a grain of salt.
Yeppers. Just what the American people were hoping for in a president. Someone who constantly spouts off to millions of devotees without thinking at 3AM.
Your advice to not take him seriously and only with a grain of salt is probably right.
"Nah, he isn't going to nuke London because you refused to sell him Westminster Abby for a hotel. He's just talking ****. Hey, nobody seriously takes what our president say's anyway".

Just the guy we need as leader of the free world.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:46 AM
 
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After all Trumps hyperbole you now believe him?
I've been scared of having Trump in office since the election began.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Yeppers. Just what the American people were hoping for in a president. Someone who constantly spouts off to millions of devotees without thinking at 3AM.
Your advice to not take him seriously and only with a grain of salt is probably right.
"Nah, he isn't going to nuke London because you refused to sell him Westminster Abby for a hotel. He's just talking ****. Hey, nobody seriously takes what our president say's anyway".

Just the guy we need as leader of the free world.
He really should stop all these silly tweets

The Supreme Court has twice affirmed the right to desecrate the American flag as a form of free speech -- a historically contentious issue -- in cases before the high court in 1989 and 1990.

In the 1989 case "Texas v. Johnson," the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 that flag burning was a form of "symbolic speech" protected by the First Amendment. The ruling came after an appeal from Gregory Johnson, who had been convicted by a Texas court of violating a state law that prohibited the "desecration of a venerated object" such as the US flag.

The following year, in "United states v. Eichman," the top court again affirmed the right to burn the flag when it ruled 5-4 that the Flag Protection Act of 1989 -- passed by Congress in response to the Johnson decision -- was unconstitutional.

So I doubt Trump can or should do anything about flag burning.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:47 AM
 
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forget it. believe what you want to believe.
I wasn't aware that I needed your permission to believe what I want to believe, but I feel so much better now that I have it.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:47 AM
 
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Originally Posted by kevinm View Post
Burning a flag is an ACT. It is not SPEECH.
Let's just assume it's not speech for a moment.

If I purchase a flag, nad it is my private property, I have every right to burn that flag.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I don't think Trump can really do anything about it.

Beating a dead horse is waste of time.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:52 AM
 
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Giving money to a politician is an act, too, but the Supreme Court rules that it is protected under "free speech", and also that Corporations are PEOPLE. So apparently according to the law an act CAN be considered speech (and by the way, that was what was ruled by the Supreme Court in 1989 regarding flag burning). See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Johnson

It's a twisted world we live in.
They got it right both times.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:52 AM
 
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Nobody should be thrown in jail for flag burning, just deported. It's the equivalent of renouncing your citizenship which is free speech with similar consequences.
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