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Old 09-19-2018, 06:39 AM
 
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No way, the GOP loves their welfare
This.
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:02 AM
 
Location: MS
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Fine ,come up with a new plain before cutting off the old.
If you are currently receiving benefits, that continues.
If you are paying into the system you can continue. You can opt out and get your money back. Tax credits, lump sum, or some combination.
If you haven't started paying into it, then when you get a job you will need to be a responsible adult and save for a rainy day.





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Any privatization of SS would have to be regulated to prevent gamblers ending up destitute. The best thing would be to put anyone born in a specific year in the same
retirement plan similar to those offered by many mutual fund companies. Part of my ira is invested in a retirement twenty thirty five fund.

The fact is it would allow workers to also benefit from stock investments
So the government is there to save people from themselves.
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:30 AM
 
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LOL...you wouldn’t opt out if you could. None of you that claim that you want out would get out if you could.

“I don’t believe you, you need more people”

—Jay Z

I do admire the effort you guys make to sound like rugged individualists though.
Thats your uninformed opinion which you are entitled to, carry on.
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:31 AM
 
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You can move to a country without ss system and renounce your us citizenship. It’s quite easy to get what you want.
Nope, plenty of other things I do like about here, I'd just rather have a better system for how we provide this sketchy "safety net" that is nothing more than a political stick/carrot situation that doesn't efficiently do what it was intended to do.
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:39 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Oh, please! Just stop with the lies! The Republicans are NOT going to "kill" Social Security! To do so would be suicide.

The ACA was a bad deal for nearly everyone. It was expensive, not cheaper, as lyin' Obama claimed it would be. High premiums greater than a mortgage payment (can we say, "double?") and deductibles that rendered it useless, except for something catastrophic, and that deductible would still wipe a family out. That's not insurance. It's a scam. Then there was the penalty for not buying it, which many people chose to pay rather than buy into the scam.

You're spreading propaganda. Nothing more.
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:43 AM
 
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Oh, please! Just stop with the lies! The Republicans are NOT going to "kill" Social Security! To do so would be suicide.

The ACA was a bad deal for nearly everyone. It was expensive, not cheaper, as lyin' Obama claimed it would be. High premiums greater than a mortgage payment (can we say, "double?") and deductibles that rendered it useless, except for something catastrophic, and that deductible would still wipe a family out. That's not insurance. It's a scam. Then there was the penalty for not buying it, which many people chose to pay rather than buy into the scam.

You're spreading propaganda. Nothing more.
yes in the real world GOP'er's love welfare. Its only in partisan politics fantasy land that they talk about actually ending it.
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:44 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Fear mongering.
That's what Leftists do best. "Kavanaugh is going to repeal Roe v. Wade." To hear them tell it, he wants to confine women to their homes, and destroy "everything we have gained" (in the words of one Leftist, I forget who) over the last several decades.

Right.

But one thing we can count on is that the Leftists, if they had the chance, would do away with the 2nd Amendment. They have said so.
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I have lost track of how many elections I've seen where the The liberals have claimed that the GOP plans to take away SS. It's as far back as I can remember so this lie is over 40 years old.
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:47 AM
 
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GOP to kill SS and Medicare after election.

That's their goal. They would do it today if they could.

As it is the Republicans have done this before. The strategy is called "Starving the Beast". It goes back at least to Reagan.
We were told this is what would happen after the last election.

You guys are as bad as the birthers lol.

Here is your post from over a year ago...and yet with the house, senate and presidency....they didn't do it.
//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...ck-burner.html
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:48 AM
 
Location: London
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2,000 a year.

Every 20 year old should have that beat into their head that this is what it takes to retire a millionaire.
In 2068, they'll probably need closer to 100 million to comfortably retire.
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