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I blame the companies because if they'd pay a fair wage to Americans, it would help several problems these companies have helped create.
I blame the companies, too.
I'm wondering why you don't also blame the illegal immigrants.
Did the companies force them to break our laws and come here illegally?
Did they go down to Mexico and kidnap them?
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By your definition, many first and second wave immigrants never assimilated so therefore your prior assertion is incorrect regarding the Magical Good Immigrant of yore.
So what would you do once that limit was reached, but people still kept coming here illegally?
First I'd look at how they were getting here illegally.
Second, I'd look at if there was a way to help them if they couldn't stay here
Third, I'd look around the world and see if other first world countries were doing their part in helping these people. I do think we all have a responsibility here because many of us profit in some way from those in third world countries.
Fourth, I'd engage with leading experts in the fields of agriculture, social sciences, finance, etc. to see how we can help those in third world countries better so they can stay in their homelands.
Fifth, I'd like to see America and other first world countries stop using military actions around the world to profit from these third world countries. We enter these countries, totally **** them over and say see ya. But then we don't want to deal with the problems we created.
I'm wondering why you don't also blame the illegal immigrants.
Did the companies force them to break our laws and come here illegally?
Did they go down to Mexico and kidnap them?
Wrong.
A very few never assimilated.
Force? No. Tempt? Yes.
As I said in my initial post, I'm speaking from my experience here in Northeastern Pa. It is a fact that many first generation immigrants never assimilated into the American experience. Now their children and grandchildren did, yes. But those coming over on the boats? Not as much you think.
Yes both are federal offenses. I guess things are easier when you look at issues in a juvenile, pedantic, bland and white manner. I'd probably save myself a ton of stress if I adopted a lower level intellectual attitude toward the world.
"bland and white" -- racist much?
You certainly like to dish out the insults, while getting all huffy when someone returns the favor.
Obviously I don't agree. I think we do need stronger borders but we also need to be compassionate.
Well, then, 'compassionately' donate to establish immigration aid agencies in foreign countries and have them immigrate LEGALLY. There are also LEGAL ways for refugees to seek asylum.
Since there's already a way to do all of the above legally, deport all illegal aliens as soon as they're determined to be such.
First I'd look at how they were getting here illegally.
Second, I'd look at if there was a way to help them if they couldn't stay here
Third, I'd look around the world and see if other first world countries were doing their part in helping these people. I do think we all have a responsibility here because many of us profit in some way from those in third world countries.
Fourth, I'd engage with leading experts in the fields of agriculture, social sciences, finance, etc. to see how we can help those in third world countries better so they can stay in their homelands.
Fifth, I'd like to see America and other first world countries stop using military actions around the world to profit from these third world countries. We enter these countries, totally **** them over and say see ya. But then we don't want to deal with the problems we created.
All of that is very nice, but would you allow people who illegally immigrated here after we had reached your limit of 500,000,000 people to stay here?
They would come from other countries in the world -- countries poorer than ours.
Are you going to answer the question now?
Are you going to tell me how many would be too many?
10 million? 100 million? A billion? 3 billion?
I'd really like to know.
This is one other problem with liberal ideology; the environmental impact of unchecked immigration. Our world is currently closing in on 7.5 billion people: World Population Clock: 7.5 Billion People (2017) - Worldometers. If you do a Google search for 'maximum human population of Earth' you will get many like this: How Many People Can Earth Support?. In that link they state: "Many scientists think Earth has a maximum carrying capacity of 9 billion to 10 billion people." Then you can also go to Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population and see how dangerous this explosive human population is; just look at their graph on the top of the screen.
The world did not get it's first billion humans until the second half of the 1800's and now we are up to seven and a half billion. We went thousands of years without one billion people and now this explosive growth. There is only maybe 20 to 50 years left before we 'max' out according to many 'experts'. This places even more pressure on all of our resources. Our oceans are contaminated, drinking water is contaminated, we look everyplace for new energy resources. More is not better; it could be the destruction of humanity as we know it.
One side wants us to worry about global warming and one side wants expansion for profit. Humans might not survive to see global warming at the rate we are going. On the other side; how can we create a capitalist economy that relies on less? We have to start a dialog on these issues and I do not think anybody wants to be first.
When it comes to the churches providing sanctuary; they simply don't see the big picture.
Asking questions when you already know the answer is trolling.
Another insult.
Why?
Perhaps I didn't get what you were saying hence the question.
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