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Old 01-25-2017, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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There is no religious belief with regard to race. And apparently there is a 1st Amendment protection for doctors because you were the one who brought it up?
Tell that to Piggy Park. He and others, including a church, have claimed religious belief to deny services based on race.
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Old 01-25-2017, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Your manhood.

They want your manhood
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Old 01-25-2017, 10:58 PM
 
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Don't need any rights or laws to have special rights than other's. All that matters is that the LGBT community has the same rights as any other individual. Allowed to use the bathroom of the sex they identify with, allowed to receive same marriage benefits as a same sex married couple, allowed to serve in the military, allowed to have comparable health care coverage as a same sex married cuplr, and so forth. Nothing special needed just need to ensure that their rights are equal to all.

Now as far as private businesses go feel they have the right to serve whom they want. Businesses can hire whom they want as well. However, feel if a business does terminate someone for being part of the LGBT class they can't due to discrimination.
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:44 AM
 
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Is it also your business if I want to go to Burger King and stick a wiener in my mouth?
Are you demanding I recognize such and seek protections from people discriminating against that action? Are you demanding to be served simply because you choose such an activity?

I think you answered your own question.
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:47 AM
 
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Why should a straight person be so deeply obsessed with homosexual sex? Or are you gay?
Homosexuals are demanding that they be recognized for their sexual deviance.

Again, they don't get to demand people recognize their sexual deviance and then get upset when it is commented on.

As for your question? Why? You going to now pull the the old dismissal fallacy and accuse me of being in the closet?

Got any more bright argument ideas or are you just going to go down the list of the tired and over used fallacies?
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I think that what someone does with their appendage is their own business.
So why are you trying to exclude them from rights b/c of that?
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:57 AM
 
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So why are you trying to exclude them from rights b/c of that?
Why should they be recognized as special? What makes their case more valid than any other? You don't have a right to not be discriminated against. People can choose to be around you or not, do business with you are not and it shouldn't matter why. Apparently sexual deviance gets special treatment, but your hair color, clothing worn, music you listen to, or just being ugly is ok to discriminate against.

It is narcissism. Again, people don't get to demand special treatment and approval and then whine when that very thing is discussed.

The fact is, homosexual "rights" are nothing more than a demand for people to recognize sexual deviance. The very concept of gay rights is to demand people pay attention to the fact that they have a sexual deviancy problem. It is foundation of their entire existence.

It is no different than demanding any other sexual deviant act be recognized and then legislated to the people to demand approval of its deviant behavior.

Gays have no rights being removed as they have no right to demand special treatment. That is what it is, it is a "special" right that demands special treatment outside of what normal rights are. People deal with discrimination every day ranging from mild objections, to major ones and they aren't on some protected special list where everyone is supposed to worship at the feet of its existence. Homosexuals are not demanding equal treatment, they are demanding special treatment.
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Old 01-26-2017, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Why should they be recognized as special? What makes their case more valid than any other? You don't have a right to not be discriminated against. People can choose to be around you or not, do business with you are not and it shouldn't matter why. Apparently sexual deviance gets special treatment, but your hair color, clothing worn, music you listen to, or just being ugly is ok to discriminate against.

It is narcissism. Again, people don't get to demand special treatment and approval and then whine when that very thing is discussed.

The fact is, homosexual "rights" are nothing more than a demand for people to recognize sexual deviance. The very concept of gay rights is to demand people pay attention to the fact that they have a sexual deviancy problem. It is foundation of their entire existence.

It is no different than demanding any other sexual deviant act be recognized and then legislated to the people to demand approval of its deviant behavior.

Gays have no rights being removed as they have no right to demand special treatment. That is what it is, it is a "special" right that demands special treatment outside of what normal rights are. People deal with discrimination every day ranging from mild objections, to major ones and they aren't on some protected special list where everyone is supposed to worship at the feet of its existence. Homosexuals are not demanding equal treatment, they are demanding special treatment.
This is the most warped logic I've ever read. You actively exclude them from rights based on the thing you say you don't care about. When they say they should have those rights b/c what they do is none of your business, you say they're rubbing it in your face? This is the most absurd thing I've ever read on this site.

You went out of your way to find out who is doing what sexually, and then made a law about it, but they're the ones making it an issue?!

You've EXCLUDED them from rights they would normally have and you say they don't have any rights being removed? That's the DUMBEST thing I've seen anyone write about this whole issue!
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Old 01-26-2017, 01:10 AM
 
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This is the most warped logic I've ever read. You actively exclude them from rights based on the thing you say you don't care about. When they say they should have those rights b/c what they do is none of your business, you say they're rubbing it in your face? This is the most absurd thing I've ever read on this site.


You went out of your way to find out who is doing what sexually, and then made a law about it, but they're the ones making it an issue?!

You've EXCLUDED them from rights they would normally have and you say they don't have any rights being removed? That's the DUMBEST thing I've seen anyone write about this whole issue!
Nobody has a right to be recognized or have special treatment. They are demanding they be recognized and receive special treatment for their sexual behavior. You don't have a right to demand someone pay attention to you, to serve you or acknowledge you regardless of what you are or what you do. This is counter to what "rights" are as to meet your convoluted ideal of what a right is you have to deny the fundamental right of an individual to choose for themselves and this is the cornerstone of what a right is.

The problem is that you have no clue what a right is.
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Old 01-26-2017, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Nobody has a right to be recognized or have special treatment. They are demanding they be recognized and receive special treatment for their sexual behavior. You don't have a right to demand someone pay attention to you, to serve you or acknowledge you regardless of what you are or what you do. This is counter to what "rights" are as to meet your convoluted ideal of what a right is you have to deny the fundamental right of an individual to choose for themselves and this is the cornerstone of what a right is.

The problem is that you have no clue what a right is.
Every adult has INALIENABLE RIGHTS! You don't have to apply or qualify or pass a test to have them acknowledged. You can't decide to strip rights from someone who qualifies for them for whatever perverse reason you want. You can only strip rights with cause. You're the one saying you have cause to strip them of their INALIENABLE RIGHTS. So obviously the only person who doesn't understand what rights are, is you.
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