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View Poll Results: Will Trump's order on transgender bathrooms hurt him or lose him supporters?
yes 26 10.20%
no 229 89.80%
Voters: 255. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-27-2017, 04:28 AM
 
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Schools, park districts, state parks, and other public facilities, etc., DON'T have individual changing/locker/shower room stalls for everyone. They're multiple occupancy and one big open room. THAT'S the problem.

Can you all please get a clue? /SMH
Huh?

I've never been in a women's room where there aren't stalls with doors or at least curtains.
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:33 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Who cares about transsexuals? It's a mental issue with an ICD-10 medical code, they need to be helped not used in liberals SJW agenda.
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:33 AM
 
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I have a pretty good idea how this poll will turn out since the vast majority here on the conservative side will pick no.

fun fact, the country is pretty evenly split among people who find it offensive, and those who think its great. Its one of those great wedge issues.

Other fun fact? If transgender folks do use the bathroom on their birth certificate, a LOT of folks will completely and utterly freak out. You're going to see REALLY masculine folks in the womens bathrooms, and REALLY feminine in the mens. People are going to get hurt, and killed.
I agree. I think if a person is living as a guy, taking testosterone and looks like a dude, he should use the men's room, and someone who looks like a girl because of transgender surgery or whatever, they'd be better off using the ladies room.
I wish we could have single use bathrooms anyway. I hate stalls.
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:46 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Why is marijuana a federal issue but equal rights is not?
Legislation. There is no Federal Legislation protecting LGBTs. You've been told this before. Let it sink in...

As a Federal Judge ruled in the Pitt (university) case when a F to M (but still anatomically female) transgender student was expelled for repeatedly using the men's shower/locker room facilities on campus even after being warned to not do so:

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"Federal Judge Kim R. Gibson dismissed Johnston's suit, saying that his transgender status was not covered by either the Constitution's equal-protection clause or Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, which bars sex discrimination by institutions receiving federal funds.

With regard to the equal-protection clause, Gibson writes that transgender status is not a "suspect class" under equal-protection review, so that Pitt can prevail as long as it shows a "rational basis" for its actions. The university "explained that its policy is based on the need to ensure the privacy of its students to disrobe and shower outside of the presence of members of the opposite sex. This justification has been repeatedly upheld by courts," Gibson writes."
Federal Judge denies the discrimination claim of a transgender expelled from Pitt over locker room use - Inside Higher Ed

It is left to each of the states to decide:

Did You Know It's Legal In Most States To Discriminate Against LGBT People? : NPR

Trump's Executive Order reaffirms the correct legal venue in which this issue is decided.
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:49 AM
 
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Huh?

I've never been in a women's room where there aren't stalls with doors or at least curtains.
I have in regards to women's changing/locker/shower rooms: K-12 schools, colleges/universities, park district facilities, state park facilities...
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Old 02-27-2017, 05:05 AM
 
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what do you think
Non issue. Another grandstanding executive order with little real substance, but boy it plays good for his base. It will do nothing to change his support, because it does nothing to affect the 160 million adults that didn't vote for him. Trump thrives on adulation, that is his motivation for almost everything he does.
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Old 02-27-2017, 06:27 AM
 
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I'm surprised that Trump said it was a 'state issue'. He is generally to pompous to give up one iota of control to anyone. After all, he is smarter and knows more than anybody.
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Old 02-27-2017, 07:01 AM
 
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They just made a big deal about the girl on steroids who had to wrestle girls and not boys. How was she not even disqualified?
It like as a society we're constantly being show a shiny object to keep our attention while all around us things are going on that would make us go crazy.
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Old 02-27-2017, 07:52 AM
 
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I believe we shouldn't have a policy that repulses the vast majority while benefiting a degenerate few!
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Old 02-27-2017, 02:23 PM
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This is only an issue for progressives.
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