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Old 03-21-2017, 10:26 AM
 
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You would think Ryan is President, not Donald Trump.

 
Old 03-21-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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Maybe better for Doctors, but not so great for medicare recipients who would get stuck with balance billing

"To an unusual degree, even for a doctor-politician, Dr Price puts doctors' interests high on his political agenda....The bill would also remove restrictions that have prevented physicians from raising their charges. First, the act would allow physicians to "balance-bill" Medicare beneficiaries—to charge them more than Medicare's allowable charge—which is currently illegal."

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/872682

I couldn't read the article because it requested login.

Are you saying the Ryan repeal/replace bill is allowing Balance Billing for Medicare? Or is this something that Price favors, but it's not in the bill? Balance Billing for Medicare or even for PPOs is horrible. Just horrible.
 
Old 03-21-2017, 10:31 AM
 
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We lost my mom to cancer earlier in the year. She fought it off and on for around 9 years. Her doctor was a really good person besides being a good doctor. If my mom was taken to the closest hospital they would not allow her doctor in to see her as she was not a part of their system of doctors.

This lady made calls to the house to check on my mom but she was not allowed to see her in the hospital.

Eff those who make these kinds of decisions for Wall Street. Eff them.
Sorry for your loss.

There was also loss on the provider side as you mention. Certainly a loss for your mother, but also a loss for her doc not being in a position to assist with care. A well rounded doc is trained and dedicated to the complete care of the patient. Being excluded, if not voluntary, from the hospital can be a large negative for all concerned. And then again I know some docs who couldn't give a flying F.
 
Old 03-21-2017, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I couldn't read the article because it requested login.

Are you saying the Ryan repeal/replace bill is allowing Balance Billing for Medicare? Or is this something that Price favors, but it's not in the bill? Balance Billing for Medicare or even for PPOs is horrible. Just horrible.
Here's another article about it, this one says it's "proposed legislation". I don't think the Ryan bill is the only one that has been introduced, but this administration is so "transparent" that I don't know of any way to figure how many different issues like this will be voted on:
http://www.modernhealthcare.com/arti...NEWS/170309880
 
Old 03-21-2017, 10:49 AM
 
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I couldn't read the article because it requested login.

Are you saying the Ryan repeal/replace bill is allowing Balance Billing for Medicare? Or is this something that Price favors, but it's not in the bill? Balance Billing for Medicare or even for PPOs is horrible. Just horrible.
Look at it for once from the docs standpoint and it should not be so horrible. If the docs is to give up Medicare or even leave practice entirely due to unrealistically low Medicare reimbursements, then what else to do? The only reason I can stay in business today with Medicare is that since around 2012 we are now being reimbursed for quality measures. Finally getting paid for things we already had done, but never reimbursed for. And that is about $100/yr extra for most Medicare patients.
 
Old 03-21-2017, 10:50 AM
 
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I couldn't read the article because it requested login.

Are you saying the Ryan repeal/replace bill is allowing Balance Billing for Medicare? Or is this something that Price favors, but it's not in the bill? Balance Billing for Medicare or even for PPOs is horrible. Just horrible.
I think balance billing is a Price thing, not a Ryan thing.
 
Old 03-21-2017, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Wow, so there are supposed to be work requirements for able bodied seniors, but not younger people? No, don't think so.
Yeah, I think that is just an attempt to do make conservatives like Sen. Paul and Sen. Lee come to the table, just as the New York provisions were to get Rep. P. King to the table.
 
Old 03-21-2017, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Here's another article about it, this one says it's "proposed legislation". I don't think the Ryan bill is the only one that has been introduced, but this administration is so "transparent" that I don't know of any way to figure how many different issues like this will be voted on:
http://www.modernhealthcare.com/arti...NEWS/170309880
Well aren't there two plans that are HSA based (one of which is a bill Price's) while another proposal was by Rep. Ryan asking for states to return to their high risk pool.
 
Old 03-21-2017, 11:12 AM
 
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Sorry for your loss.

There was also loss on the provider side as you mention. Certainly a loss for your mother, but also a loss for her doc not being in a position to assist with care. A well rounded doc is trained and dedicated to the complete care of the patient. Being excluded, if not voluntary, from the hospital can be a large negative for all concerned. And then again I know some docs who couldn't give a flying F.
I'm sure this is true.
 
Old 03-21-2017, 11:21 AM
 
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Yeah, I think that is just an attempt to do make conservatives like Sen. Paul and Sen. Lee come to the table, just as the New York provisions were to get Rep. P. King to the table.
I do not believe it was ever proposed.
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