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Old 05-07-2017, 02:39 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Abortions were never funded, so what's the point?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M-rK96uJKY-

Trumps campaign discussing Planned Parenthood with Fox News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgwpEIP79uk- Presidential Debates

I will try to find a more updated one but this came up just now to post
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Old 05-07-2017, 02:39 PM
 
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More birth control in the U.S.? This thread can't be serious with the above post saying the U.S. is repressing birth control. Wow.
If the secretaries of family planning get their way, there will be less access.

Trump Just Picked a Contraception Skeptic to Head Federal Family Planning Efforts | Mother Jones

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She also said that pro-choice advocates view abortion as a backup form of contraception for when birth control fails (oral contraception is effective over 99 percent of the time when taken properly): "Of course, contraception doesn't work. Its efficacy is very low especially when you consider over years," she said. Manning continued: "The prospect that contraception would always prevent the conception of a child is preposterous."
Trump will tap Teresa Manning, a woman who thinks birth control doesn’t work, to lead U.S. birth control program.
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Old 05-07-2017, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I am NOT WRONG.

You can get an abortion via MEDICAID RIGHT NOW thru their Plan. They are funded partially by the Feds

No one has mentioned religion so far but you. And ONLY you.

You cannot torture a human being. YOU CANNOT MURDER a human being

That is EVIL AND SICK, PERIOD. No matter the legality of it or how many evil people will support it.

It is NOT your right to murder

No you are still wrong, once again, health plans funded through Medicaid cannot provide abortions.


from your own senate link:


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Health Plans Cannot Be Required to Cover Abortion. Health plans cannot be required to cover abortions as part of its essential health benefits package. Health plans can choose to cover: no abortions, only those abortions allowed by the Hyde amendment (rape, incest and life endangerment), or abortions beyond those allowed by Hyde.
No Federal Funds for Abortion Coverage or Abortion Care.
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Old 05-07-2017, 02:52 PM
 
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Not really what? And what does PP have to do with your current OB/GYN practice? Abortions are legal whether you like that or not. I would much rather have a woman go to PP for an abortion than have her boyfriend kick her in the stomach until she miscarried, and yes that did used to happen.
You posted that one of my statements was silly. My current OB/GYN practice doesn't do abortions, so they do not have to deal with any problems associated with being abortionists. If PP wants to avoid these problems they should stop doing abortions as well.
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Old 05-07-2017, 02:54 PM
 
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Trump offered the choice to PP continue funding MINUS the abortion funding

The problem is, it isn't acceptable to them. So he had no choice

They are fighting FOR THE ABORTIONS

That's their bread and butter
For something that allegedly makes up only 3% of what they do they sure are eager to keep doing it.
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Old 05-07-2017, 03:19 PM
 
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No you are still wrong, once again, health plans funded through Medicaid cannot provide abortions.


from your own senate link:


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Feds do not DIRECTLY fund it. Meaning they do not write a check to planned parenthood directly to fund abortions. Please stop, you've been told this already. I don't think you understand Medicaid, or how it works with the health plans to provide low income people services. Until then you need to do some study to have a foundation so we can talk about more advanced matters. You are being told repeatedly but do not seem to comprehend Medicaid funding at all

Medicaid doesn't either. They have HEALTH PLANS which Medicaid FUNDS, and are required to fund. Not all plans are required to provide abortions but at least ONE PLAN Offered on the exchange must be funded. One plan via Medicaid also. I've posted this already

We all know abortion is Govt funded though not directly. so please stop this. Half a billion dollars plus are given to MEDICAID and other services which fund the poor, elderly, handicapped and others via different health plans and federally approved community centers, including PP

Only 1% of planned parenthood clinics funds tissue research, by the way. Or at least in 2010

That is what it is all about.

I myself scheduled an abortion freely in California WHILE supposidly they "didn't fund abortions" as I've stated

Ended up miscarrying so a D&C was performed. Another name for the same procedure except they got out what was remaining

You may want to read other posts before posting

Please try to keep up.

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Old 05-07-2017, 03:28 PM
 
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For something that allegedly makes up only 3% of what they do they sure are eager to keep doing it.
Yes they sure are.

You'd think only 3% of the people, maybe those whose lives are at risk or the babies life at major risk if born, would be the one's receiving the funding if that were direct money, segregated for abortions. And no other funding is allowed for this. Mabe for those whose lives we'd hope, if we are going to murder them, would be worse off than if they were alive. At best....but it's not that way of course.

PP is a political organization who spends millions of dollars each year on travel expenses, millions of dollars on executives salaries, they give and take money from the democrats who support them, it's a real problem. Their fundraising efforts are tremendous, rock groups like Salt and Pepa performing while they count that as a loss on taxes.

Hence why the GOP wants to divert $$ to the small community centers instead. The $$ will go much further to help women imho.

There are around 700 PP centers versus over 13 thousand federally approved community health centers in 2010 says the Sub Committee Chairman of Healthcare Benefits and Administrative Rules, aka Rep Jordan

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Old 05-07-2017, 03:58 PM
 
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Again , lets look at the revenues of Plan Parent Hood. They make great deal of Profit and should not be foundered by the tax payers. Never mind Tax Payers paying for Abortion demand.


We all remember the scandals form selling baby parts to endorsing Abortion to young mothers.


Planned Parenthood is All About Profit, No Matter What | ncregister.com

Planned Parenthood is All About Profit, No Matter What | ncregister.com
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Jan 13, 2017 - Profit. No Matter What.” That's the appropriately named new report detailing dozens of external audits and reviews of Planned Parenthood ...
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Planned Parenthood Orange County Changes Abortions to Harvest Intact Fetuses for Local Company's “Fetal Products” Sales ...
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Old 05-07-2017, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Ugh, why do people insist on calling abortions murder? Sure, the aborted fetus would have grown to be a human, but at the time of the operation, it is NOT human. It's not really anything yet.

I'll always feel like men should have no say in what women do with their bodies. None. I mean, I thought this was America.
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Old 05-07-2017, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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Not if you're subjected to federal audits, you don't.
Once it hits the blood stream the body doesn't care, were oxygen came from and it doesn't care about a line on a piece of paper. Once it hits the pocket of Planned baby killing and Parenthood it is just money no matter what the source. The people of the United States are in a fight. One side wants to kill babies and wants to send everybody's money to a baby killing organization. The other side wants the baby killers out of business and will fight to dry up all their funds unless they stop killing babies.

Hence a bigger than expected vote for President Trump and the hoped for victory of Justice Gorsuch and of any other seat if the sitting justice can't hang on for two more years of life.
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