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Of course then you'd be screaming from the rooftops how Republicans want people to die.
You victims play ever angle, and it's disgusting.
If we're going to stop ALL welfare, then let's do that!!! Stop all subsidies to farmers, all the subsidies to oil, all the tariffs to bring manufacturing jobs back to America, all the corporate tax breaks, stop the FHA home buyers program, stop trying to keep coal on life support, etc, etc. I'll absolutely be down with that.
The problem is that when right-wingers talk about ending welfare, they really just want to end the ones that they don't like and keep the ones they do.
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If we're going to stop ALL welfare, then let's do that!!! Stop all subsidies to farmers, all the subsidies to oil, all the tariffs to bring manufacturing jobs back to America, all the corporate tax breaks, stop the FHA home buyers program, stop trying to keep coal on life support, etc, etc. I'll absolutely be down with that.
The problem is that when right-wingers talk about ending welfare, they really just want to end the ones that they don't like and keep the ones they do.
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And Social Security Disability. Apparently the Eastern Kentucky economy is depending on Social Security Disability. An entire economy based on our tax dollars.
"The agency said it was taking that action because there was reason to believe some cases Conn’s firm handled included fraudulent information from four doctors.
The move was a blow in Eastern Kentucky, where disability income is a significant part of the economy.
The agency decided not to cut off off checks during the re-determination process after Republican U.S. Rep. Hal Rogers interceded."
Texas has the highest uninsured in the entire country. Fewer Texans have health insurance by percentage than any other state. Texas also has one of the highest property taxes in the country as well as one of the highest sales taxes. That's all fine as long as Texans stay in Texas.
If Washington state were to implement a state based health plan, ideally it would be one that has a 10+ year residency requirement in order for long term residents to partake. As it is Washington is growing at a ridiculous rate and the second highest contributing state after California is Texas. They skip all those other states and come straight to us. If Texas is so great, they should stay there.
The point is, blue states have no problem creating social programs as long as our funding can stay within our own borders.*
*Ironically, Texas' low insurance rate is going to hurt them when it comes to TrumpCare dollars. The plan calls for the $100 billion to be distributed by the size of the insurance market. So states with the highest percentage of insured get the most money. Great for Massachusetts, terrible for Texas.
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And Social Security Disability. Apparently the Eastern Kentucky economy is depending on Social Security Disability. An entire economy based on our tax dollars.
"The agency said it was taking that action because there was reason to believe some cases Conn’s firm handled included fraudulent information from four doctors.
The move was a blow in Eastern Kentucky, where disability income is a significant part of the economy.
The agency decided not to cut off off checks during the re-determination process after Republican U.S. Rep. Hal Rogers interceded."
Oh yeas, people are just pouring out of texas and red states, lol, whats the inmigration numbers to Washington from Texas. 4 thousand or so?
Again why is it great there are the 200,000 people on disability in Washington state , close to 40,000 in king county alone but the 100,000 or so on disability in west virginia is awful.
How do you even know the people on disability even voted red in west Virginia, I doubt they did . The state went for bernie sanders in the democratic primaries
Oh yeas, people are just pouring out of texas and red states, lol, whats the inmigration numbers to Washington from Texas. 4 thousand or so?
Again why is it great there are the 200,000 people on disability in Washington state , close to 40,000 in king county alone but the 100,000 or so on disability in west virginia is awful.
How do you even know the people on disability even voted red in west Virginia, I doubt they did . The state went for bernie sanders in the democratic primaries
As a percentage, West Virginia has almost 10% (of working age) are on Disability. The entire state of West Virginia has 1.8 million people and over 100K are on Disability. Washington state has 7.2 million people but 200K on Disability. There is no comparison.
Is the new theory that West Virginia is Democratic? What about Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky and Mississippi? Are they Democratic too? What about Eastern Kentucky? The point of the thread is, liberals in blue states are more than fine funding social programs as long as our money stays in our own blue states. Red states can do whatever they want, they just need to stay out of our pockets.
As a percentage, West Virginia has almost 10% (of working age) are on Disability. The entire state of West Virginia has 1.8 million people and over 100K are on Disability. Washington state has 7.2 million people but 200K on Disability. There is no comparison.
Is the new theory that West Virginia is Democratic? What about Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky and Mississippi? Are they Democratic too? What about Eastern Kentucky? The point of the thread is, liberals in blue states are more than fine funding social programs as long as our money stays in our own blue states. Red states can do whatever they want, they just need to stay out of our pockets.
Its not 10% its 8.9% and again why are close 200,000 on disability in washington state great but the the 100,000 in west Virginia are awful to you, because they live in a red state. Yes the majority of voters on social assistance and low income voters in many of the states you mentioned are democrat voters
Red states stay out of your pockets, in what way? Thats comical. Washington state is not even in the top 10 for gsp and isnt a rich state by any means
Its not 10% its 8.9% and again why are close 200,000 on disability in washington state great but the the 100,000 in west Virginia are awful to you, because they live in a red state. Yes the majority of voters on social assistance and low income voters in many of the states you mentioned are democrat voters
Red states stay out of your pockets, in what way? Thats comical. Washington state is not even in the top 10 for gsp and isnt a rich state by any means
Surely the math is obvious. The point is, let blue states fund their own programs and give them the ability to exclude red states who can also choose not to fund their own programs. That seems like something Trump supporters would be completely on board with.
I would be completely fine with that if it was only funding liberals. My issue is the people in red states that scream about socialism but are first in line at the trough.
What about people in your own state who fit the exact same profile?
Would you devise some sort of 'Seacove's definition of a liberal test' that the person would have to pass before he or she and offspring could 'feed at the trough' ?
But that's the point. He lives in the blue state of Washington. So does Jeff Bezos of Amazon. Starbucks, Expedia, Costco, Nordstrom, REI, they are all headquartered here. Why should blue states pay for red states? Red states that complain about those programs, vote against those programs but also take advantage of those programs? Let blue states fund our own programs with the ability to exclude red states participants.
That is an excellent idea! States should not be allowed to take out more federal dollars from the government than they put in.
Because way too many of the red state takers would drain it. Way too many believe everything should be free, and not paid for. Magic unicorns.
You just described liberals to a T. Always wanting everything for free and expecting someone else to pay for it.
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What about Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky and Mississippi? Are they Democratic too? What about Eastern Kentucky? The point of the thread is, liberals in blue states are more than fine funding social programs as long as our money stays in our own blue states. Red states can do whatever they want, they just need to stay out of our pockets.
