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Because that's how the Government, Democrats included in a big way here, have made things. Why do you support the Democrats who continually support open borders and Globalism which is the MAIN DRIVER in what you are complaining about?
Everything you just posted is pure, baseless propaganda.
Democrats do not support open borders. They support secure borders with a path to citizenship for illegals who've been in the country for years without committing crimes.
The Senate comprehensive Immigration Reform bill of 2013 was passed by a vote of 68-32. Every democrat voted for it. It had the most stringent border security ever proposed by the federal government. It also had a path for citizenship for those living here for years, illegally.
Globalism is not a democratic agenda. It is a planetary phenomenon brought on by corporate capitalists of various political persuasions who are always looking at redefining their bottom line, expanding their markets and making the most profit from their business. Ford wants to sell cars to the 2 billion Chinese. Trump wants the Chinese to make all his branded products to keep his bottom line cost down. Globalism is a fact of life and not politics.
That is an excellent idea! States should not be allowed to take out more federal dollars from the government than they put in.
Why doesn't it already work like that?
Because so much of federal spending is military related and many states have alot of military bases , alot of military retirees and retirees in general. Many states like new mexico and some Southern and Western states has alot of military research as well
Florida and Texas has a huge military presence in terms of bases and active duty and vets and a ton of retirees both military and civilians receiving social security yet are still in the states who pay more than they receive. The only way to do away with that system is to do away with the progressive tax system
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Originally Posted by Seacove
I don't know but that should be an absolute rule. Red states can do whatever they want as long as they pay for themselves.
How are red states in your pocket, you dont have a problem with federal taxpayers paying for the 200,000 or people on disability in Washington state but the 100,000 people on disabilty in west virginia enrages you?
Texas has an economy 4 times larger than Washington state , Florida close to double the size in gsp, Pennsylvania,Ohio,North carolina ,Georgia all have larger economies than washington state.
I am dying to hear your economic breakdown of how red states are in your personal pocket?
What about people in your own state who fit the exact same profile?
Would you devise some sort of 'Seacove's definition of a liberal test' that the person would have to pass before he or she and offspring could 'feed at the trough' ?
You bring up a good point, if each state is not allowed to spend more than they earn, it will hit poor red states hard. They will be unable to provide for their freeloaders, then many many red staters will just move to the blue states to take advantage of the later's prosperity and receive free handouts.
Then we will have to build a wall to keep the right-wingers out and make red states pay for it.
You bring up a good point, if each state is not allowed to spend more than they earn, it will hit poor red states hard. They will be unable to provide for their freeloaders, then many many red staters will just move to the blue states to take advantage of the later's prosperity and receive free handouts.
Then we will have to build a wall to keep the right-wingers out and make red states pay for it.
#Wall! Liberals have no problem pooling for their own state.
How do you even know the people on disability even voted red in west Virginia, I doubt they did . The state went for bernie sanders in the democratic primaries
Because that is typical right-wing.
This is why you see those idiots putting up signs that read "Get Goddamn Government off my Medicare!!"
There are legions of right-wingers on Obamacare who will swear Obama is the devil and support repealing the ACA.
Exactly. The reality vs. the story they constantly try to promote but is proven false over and over and over again.
Really, this applies to everyone who believes in taxation, just to different degrees. People on the left tend to think more government programs are necessary, conservatives think less government programs are necessary, libertarians (minarchist libertarians) believe only a few government programs are necessary, but they all advocate that something be funded through collectivist schemes.
Just reminded me of when I talk to conservatives or even libertarians, and they say they support minimal government, but literally EVERYONE thinks they support the minimum amount of government necessary. Nobody is like "I support this unnecessary program." When they argue against us anarchist libertarians, they're taking on the same role as the liberals they complain about.
I rarely point that out because I prefer finding common ground, but it's technically true.
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