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Old 05-08-2017, 12:41 PM
 
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Originally Posted by FatBob96 View Post
Well.....

They certainty won't do it if we keep formenting the belief that Government will do it for them.

We don't need people to do it out of the graciousness of their hearts.

If you want to build a widget factory, you should be willing to pay for the roads that lead to it. If they don't, then they won't be able to ship their products.

You know....that whole "you didn't build that" attitude is what you use to make capitalism pay for itself without the force of government.
Nice little cherry picked example.

Who is gonna pay for the police to patrol and answer emergency calls?

Who is gonna pay to fix a dam that breaks?

Who is gonna pay for someone's auto accident which requires life saying medical procedures the person can not afford?
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Old 05-08-2017, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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And there's many who have lived and worked here in the US and they don't like their systems back home. See how that works. I have seen first hand wealthy individuals from around the world come to Duke University Medical Center in Durham for treatment. If they enjoyed their "free" tax payer funded healthcare so much from their country of origin, why are they coming to the States and Duke?

I didn't see Michael Bublé take his child for his cancer treatment to Canada or Argentina, where his wife is from, he came to the good old USofA, I wonder why that was?
Because he lives in LA? His medical insurance would of lapsed in Canada if he didn't remain a resident.
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Old 05-08-2017, 12:44 PM
 
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Everyone, that's the point!
That is what taxes are.
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Old 05-08-2017, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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How much of your own money should you be "allowed" to keep....off limits for "the public good"?

80%?

50%?

25%?

And we don't have a low quality of life here....far from it.
Oh dear, this list are all countries with UHC.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-cou...-life-rankings
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Old 05-08-2017, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Who is gonna be paying for all these services out of pocket for generosity?
If you use it you pay for it, or get help from family/friends/some other organization. Not sure what you mean by "for generosity".
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Old 05-08-2017, 12:47 PM
 
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I thought you could if you were married... Is that not the case?
I was being sarcastic. It is the answer people get when they have the nerve to get pregnant. Followed by the god help you if you are abandoned. It does not fit the script, so you must have done SOMETHING wrong. Being poor is a crime in some people's eyes.
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Old 05-08-2017, 12:47 PM
 
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Who is going to be footing the bill for basic infrastructure and emergency services?
Exactly. And they say liberals are full of pipe dreams.
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Old 05-08-2017, 12:49 PM
 
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I think you need to reread your post because I can't believe that people never earn "anything"they have.

To just give one example, I would love for you to tell that to a boy who spent all summer mowing lawns to get a new video system he wanted. I think his reaction would be something to behold!

(I would, however, like for you to explain exactly what you did mean, though.)
Did he buy the lawn mower or did his mommy and daddy let them use the family one?
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Old 05-08-2017, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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The US has 10 times the population you do and almost 50% pay NOTHING in taxes that can be used for UHC. Why can't you Lefties do math? So in essence that's 150 million people buying 300 million insurance plans. It would be like every working person who pays taxes buying TWO insurance plans. I'm sorry, but it's not my responsibility to take care of anyone else but myself and my family. You don't see wild animals dropping off food that they just killed for their families to the one that can't feed itself. It's called survival of the fittest and it will never change. If you can't afford to take care of yourself, you do whatever is necessary to do so or you fade away into oblivion. People who truly can't take care of themselves are already covered. So everyone is bitching and moaning about people who can take care of themselves but refuse to do so. I have no sympathy for anyone that refuses to do what is necessary for themselves while they absolutely can.
Start with how much cheaper UHC is to run, and then do the math.

Your current system isn't working. It is going to collapse.

As for taxes

https://mises.org/blog/myth-half-ame...-federal-taxes
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Old 05-08-2017, 12:55 PM
 
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If you use it you pay for it, or get help from family/friends/some other organization. Not sure what you mean by "for generosity".
We all use public roads, bridges, police, schools, etc

Assuming you dont live off the grid.
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