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Old 08-06-2019, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The "answer" is straightforward.

If you have kids and you're divorced, meet your financial obligations.

There are FAR too many irresponsible divorced parents who leave their kids w/o needed support.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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What was Mom doing all day when kids where in school K-12, then college? She wasn't hauling the kids to play dates, Gymboree, or birthday parties, that's for sure. Plus, you said that you had 50/50 custody, correct? What was Mom doing all the time that you had the kids?

It sounds like your kids got completely financially screwed because of Mom. Even if she worked p/t, only while the kids were in school, say 30 hours per week, and invested the money over 16 years, your kids could have had a nice chunk of change for a downpayment on a house, or money to pursue graduate college degrees without debt, or even PHDs.

Besides this, your post really illustrates my point quite nicely. Financial support is something that only Dad is required to do. Nobody cares if Mom doesn't financially support children.
I thought your original post had to do with support orders when a couple has split up. So long as a family is supporting itself then it is the family's decision amongst themselves what is appropriate. Mike is right - support of children comes from more than a paycheck. When a couple is still together, financial support is something the couple is required to do, and it is up to them to determine between themselves how best to do that.

Also, it seems like a pretty big leap to determine that his "kids got completely financially screwed because of Mom." It seems like you are projecting either your own situation or the situation of a few close family members or friends onto relationships between parents writ large.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:36 AM
 
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I don't know any high-paid football/basketball players or movie stars who totally support the mothers of their children.

The single mothers I know all work and not only raise the kids, but contribute as much or more financial support than the fathers.

House payments, utilities, car payments, gas/repairs, food, clothes/shoes, presents, money for school supplies/lunches/outings, childcare, ...

Many can't even count on regular financial support from the fathers. The check is late, or "lost in the mail." Some have to go through the courts to get the court-ordered child support.

As to why fathers should be expected to pay child support if they become unemployed "through no fault of their own" -- because mortgage companies, school lunch programs, gas stations, ... etc. don't give a damn about whether fathers can keep a job or not.

Kids cost money and take a lot of time to raise.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:45 AM
 
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The "answer" is straightforward.

If you have kids and you're divorced, meet your financial obligations.

There are FAR too many irresponsible divorced parents who leave their kids w/o needed support.
The point is that Mom is not required to meet her financial obligations, only Dad is.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:51 AM
 
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I thought your original post had to do with support orders when a couple has split up. So long as a family is supporting itself then it is the family's decision amongst themselves what is appropriate. Mike is right - support of children comes from more than a paycheck. When a couple is still together, financial support is something the couple is required to do, and it is up to them to determine between themselves how best to do that.

Also, it seems like a pretty big leap to determine that his "kids got completely financially screwed because of Mom." It seems like you are projecting either your own situation or the situation of a few close family members or friends onto relationships between parents writ large.
i was commenting on Mike's situation. He said that he paid child support, that Mom didn't work, and that he had 50/50 custody.

Its not a leap at all to say his kids were screwed. His kids Mother paid ZERO for at least 16 years of school. If this was done by Dad, he would be in jail and many on this very thread would be calling him a deadbeat. But because it was Mom who shirked her financial obligations toward her children, no one cares.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The point is that Mom is not required to meet her financial obligations, only Dad is.
That's your claim, anyway.

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Old 08-06-2019, 05:52 AM
 
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I don't know any high-paid football/basketball players or movie stars who totally support the mothers of their children.

The single mothers I know all work and not only raise the kids, but contribute as much or more financial support than the fathers.

House payments, utilities, car payments, gas/repairs, food, clothes/shoes, presents, money for school supplies/lunches/outings, childcare, ...

Many can't even count on regular financial support from the fathers. The check is late, or "lost in the mail." Some have to go through the courts to get the court-ordered child support.

As to why fathers should be expected to pay child support if they become unemployed "through no fault of their own" -- because mortgage companies, school lunch programs, gas stations, ... etc. don't give a damn about whether fathers can keep a job or not.

Kids cost money and take a lot of time to raise.
If kids cost so much money and need financial support, why isnt Mom required by the law to support them?
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:55 AM
 
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That's your claim, anyway.

This subject always bring people out of the woodwork that lack the necessary integrity to post the truth. Always.

You tell me, tell everyone, if Mom doesn't work and earns 0, what is Dad's recourse?
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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and that is extremely rare. Courts 99% favor the mother no matter what.


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Simply not true. A court can award custody of a child to a father and impel the mother to pay support.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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even if the mother is a POS gold digger who should not be raising kids?


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Sorry, I have no sympathy for men who brought children into this world and are trying to avoid paying their share. It doesn't matter what the woman is paying, a man looks out for his children if he wants to call himself a man.
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