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Old 06-26-2017, 10:23 PM
 
Location: USA
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Non hate filled atheist here and I'll take Religious Right over Islamic Fundamentalists any day. Who is a hate filled atheist anyway? We are delightfully logical and pleasant to be around!!

Haha, Remember Stalin and Mao were Atheist too. I'm also an Atheist, but my heritage is Christian based. Thank goodness as we know that if the west was founded by Muslims we would be a Saudi Arabia or an Iran today.
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Old 06-26-2017, 10:29 PM
 
Location: California
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Haha, Remember Stalin and Mao were Atheist too. I'm also an Atheist, but my heritage is Christian based. Thank goodness as we know that if the west was founded by Muslims we would be a Saudi Arabia or an Iran today.
((not real atheists))


They just replaced religious ideology with political ideology, and both are about control.
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Old 06-27-2017, 12:07 AM
 
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American Evangelicals in this country created and supported the law in Uganda that called for exterminating gay people. Lots of "Christians" have called for blowing up abortion clinics. Lots of "Christians" want to blow up the Middle East to eradicate Muslims and brown people.

Most Christians in this country behave nothing like Christ and haven't the foggiest clue what's in the Bible.
The church opposes homosexuals but does not ask for sanctions
This is not a big problem because solutions can be found by democratic means
I think that this issue is used to distort the image of the Church and justify the terrorist ideology
The position of the Church is a principled position in rejecting the types of sexual relations outside the marriage contract
But they do not use any terrorist means against them only the word and the argument
But Christians want to kill Muslims, this is a false accusation
Christians do not want to kill any human being
But the Christian is resisting the ideology of evil in the Middle East
This is also a natural right for Christians
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Old 06-27-2017, 12:16 AM
 
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No he isn't. He's made us far less safe than we were before, and these people had no danger in their home. They just perceive anyone different from than as being inherently dangerous. Hence my valid argument that America is dominated by stupid people.

Trump is defending his interests and the interests of the billionaire class. He couldn't care less about you or most of America. He praises Russia more than he does America.
America has no borders with an Islamic state
But in America, there is an Islamic community
Because the Muslim American community sympathizes with Muslims in the Middle East
This means that the Muslim American follows his religious faith and does not follow his American homeland
This is very dangerous

Christians have been killed and displaced in Iraq, Egypt and Syria, so why does not the American Muslim sympathize with them?It is a double standard and this is what the American society suffers from
And the European
A Muslim who emigrates to America believes that he will remain the first brick to spread the faith of Islam
The faith of Islam is coming from the desert carrying the sword
Christian fundamentalism is therefore entitled to stand against this ideological threat
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Old 06-27-2017, 12:22 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Fiyero
See my above post. Christians get more criticism in the US, because Christians are the primary religion that most people are familiar with, and they have lots of power. Christian extremists are hell-bent on harming people's lives.

Muslims on the other hand make up less than 1% of the US population and have no power here.
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If the ratio of 1% and do all these terrorist operations and crime
And the problems, how will America be if they are 10%
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Old 06-27-2017, 12:27 AM
 
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I have seen videos of them in Egypt leading 28 Coptic Christians to the sea and cutting their throats.


Does that count ?
Send this question to the author of the Qur'an and how he slaughtered 500 Jews in one day
You should also check the history books
Also, you have to ask how the Armenians and the Christians were massacred and killed in Ottoman Turkey
And how the conditions of Christians in Muslim countries
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Old 06-27-2017, 12:31 AM
 
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Does it matter? The average Muslim is not going to kill people who aren't Muslims, even if the Koran did have something in there about such things. They view this as an ancient perspective, much like those ancient perspectives from the Bible and Christian history.
You are wrong in this
Because the Muslim believes that what is written in the Koran is the word of God and is valid in all times and in every place
If you want these texts to be historical, then it means that the Muslim must abolish them from the book
Can you do that?
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Old 06-27-2017, 12:44 AM
 
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Originally Posted by RedZin
Well, historically, the religion with the most adherents has the most power to control governments and other facets of people's lives.

There's your motivation for Christian leaders to encourage everyday Christians to witness.

Now, everyday Christians just get to enjoy the fact that others are validating their beliefs when they convert.

If we could ignore the fact that the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition really did happen, or that Christian missionaries cut down sacred trees in Norse countries to force those who believed in Norse gods to attend church so they could be close to their sacred trees...

Shall I keep going?

Christianity is a bloody religion. To pretend it isn't is to lie.

Not saying you are lying... I'm saying the Christian narrative has tried to rewrite itself.
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The standard used is intellectual texts
But what Europeans did when they arrived in America is not religious because the Christian religion has no texts that encourage murder and do not encourage fighting
This is one of the most important strengths of Christianity
But it does not call for surrender to evil
Look at the Christian texts and you will see that they do not believe in war
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Old 06-27-2017, 12:58 AM
 
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Go and get yourself a bit more educated on both doctrines and review history, both old and current and you'll see that in current times radical Islam is by far the larger threat and even so called moderate Muslims have appallingly scary views of homosexuals and people who leave their faith and their opinions of non-Muslims.

Get some edumacation on the subject and their differences become quite stark.
The seriousness of Islam in that it makes man believe in lying
And makes falsehood is right and right is void
for example
They say the Prophet of Mercy
That's right
But the prophet of mercy slaughtered 500 Jews in one day
Here it is who killed 500 Jews in one day the prophet of mercy
Prophet of Mercy
He married his son's wife in adoption
Here is a void
So this is the problem of Islam with the world
Also, adultery is haraam
But the marriage of pleasure is not haraam
What is the difference between marriage between pleasure and adultery?
In all this, Christian fundamentalism does not know these moral problems
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Old 06-27-2017, 07:39 AM
 
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Awesome posts Mahasn!!!! You ask some wonderful questions.
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