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Old 07-12-2017, 06:43 AM
 
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Don't you realize how ridiculous this sounds? How about we ensure we don't live under such an overbearing police state instead and hold departments accountable for their pee-poor training in basic scenarios such as these?
Why not just ensure we teach every child how bad crime is so that we don't need police?

Then you won't have to worry about being ridiculously pragmatic.
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Old 07-12-2017, 06:48 AM
 
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I have to wonder how much experience many of these officers involved with these shootings have with dogs. If you have dogs or have been around them a lot you have sense of whether they are aggressive or not. I have my own and going to multiple residential homes everyday for a very large part of my life I've had a lot of experience dealing with other people's dogs. Most were tame despite the barking, only a handful you wouldn't see me get out of the truck. Never got bit....
I guess you didn't see my earlier post. Either that or everyone thinks it is so ridiculous they ignore it:

COPS ARE BEING TRAINED TO SHOOT ANY BARKING DOG.

I hope I wasn't unclear. Whether the dog is acting aggressively or officer experience is irrelevant.
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Old 07-12-2017, 06:57 AM
 
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The dog wasn't being aggressive. Are you saying all animals should be preemptively shot just in case they do start to show aggression? Would this philosophy extend to humans too?
This is a difficult call especially if the dog is close, most dogs will approach strangers and many of them will be barking and possibly growling. That doesn't mean they are about to attack and most of them will keep their distance if they are being semi aggressive. That's why I mentioned in my previous post I have to wonder how much experience they have with dogs if they are involved with a shooting like this. It's a difficult call but a lot easier to make if you have experience with dogs.

I had dog that was most friendly dog you will ever meet EXCEPT if I was sleeping or she was in a confined space. If I was sleeping my own Mother couldn't get near me. This dog knew how to open a tent nn destructively and mistakenly went into my Buddy's tent, she wouldn't let him in. If you weren't already in the tent you were not in the club. I got stopped by the cops once and she was not to happy about the cop reaching for license. She was very protective in those situations and you would never know it
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Old 07-12-2017, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Why not just ensure we teach every child how bad crime is so that we don't need police?

Then you won't have to worry about being ridiculously pragmatic.
What does that have to do with dogs being shot in their own yard?
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Old 07-12-2017, 07:01 AM
 
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I guess you didn't see my earlier post. Either that or everyone thinks it is so ridiculous they ignore it:

COPS ARE BEING TRAINED TO SHOOT ANY BARKING DOG.

I hope I wasn't unclear. Whether the dog is acting aggressively or officer experience is irrelevant.
That would mean that tens of thousands of dogs are being shot every day.

I'm surprised it hasn't made the news. You'd think millions of dogs being shot each year would be a big news item.
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Old 07-12-2017, 07:06 AM
 
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That would mean that tens of thousands of dogs are being shot every day.

I'm surprised it hasn't made the news. You'd think millions of dogs being shot each year would be a big news item.
The COP SAID that they were trained to shoot ALL dogs. Some cops I guess don't follow their training.
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Old 07-12-2017, 07:07 AM
 
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Because many cops are scumbags and sociopaths just waiting for an excuse to shoot someone or something. If a cop shot my dog, I would spend the rest of my days killing each and every member of their family in the most cruel manner possible.
You should be banned.

Sick.
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Old 07-12-2017, 07:08 AM
 
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I guess you didn't see my earlier post. Either that or everyone thinks it is so ridiculous they ignore it:

COPS ARE BEING TRAINED TO SHOOT ANY BARKING DOG.

I hope I wasn't unclear. Whether the dog is acting aggressively or officer experience is irrelevant.
Again it's a tough call, even when you have experience with dogs. The dog I described above would certainly bite anyone under the right circumstances. She would of given you a very aggressive warning, stepping forward and giving you a smile. Ignore the warning and you are in danger of getting bit.
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Old 07-12-2017, 07:08 AM
 
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I guess you didn't see my earlier post. Either that or everyone thinks it is so ridiculous they ignore it:

COPS ARE BEING TRAINED TO SHOOT ANY BARKING DOG.

I hope I wasn't unclear. Whether the dog is acting aggressively or officer experience is irrelevant.


This is the sheer stupidity. What LEO Academy did you attend?

Absolutely FALSE.
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Old 07-12-2017, 07:09 AM
 
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What does that have to do with dogs being shot in their own yard?
Well, if there are no cops, there won't be any cops shooting dogs, right.

I mean, if the answer is to ENSURE all cops are trained to not do stupid things instead of being pragmatic and not getting an alarm, why not just ENSURE we don't need cops by training people not to break laws?

How many times would you guess cops have shot dogs when responding to false alarms? I've heard multiple reports about it just this year. If the alarm hadn't gone off, the cops wouldn't have shown up and the dogs would still be alive.

What is more important, your tv or your dog?


prag·mat·ic
praɡˈmadik/
adjective
dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations.
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