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Old 07-28-2017, 06:24 AM
 
Location: CT
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They cheered enthusiastically and enjoyed the speech.
That should be the end of it. Fine group of young people those Boy Scouts. They will go on to "MAGA".
He could have stood there and told booger jokes and thousands of the kids would have cheered. It was inappropriate to the occasion. PERIOD.

BTW- I do have faith in the kids that ultimately they will have learned a lesson from the fallout of this unfortunate circumstance and go on to make this a better country for everyone.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:28 AM
 
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I suspect a lot of people are in the same boat. Fond memories of what a big part Scouting played in their lives but appalled at this turn of events.
But those activities go on.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:31 AM
 
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Your last line says it all, they didn't and couldn't have known what Trump was going to say to the kids, but they seem to be taking more heat than the president. A lot of comments alluding to, "they should have known better", HUH??????? Maybe a 70 year old man, a father, the POTUS, should have known better? So it doesn't matter that the kids come from conservative, liberal, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, agnostic, families the scouts are apolitical and non-denominational. Trump is the one who turned his opportunity to inspire youth to remember country and service, into his bully pulpit and self aggrandizing rally. That wasn't appropriate to the venue, Trump should be the one apologizing.
Trump should be apologizing. No doubt about that, but don't hold your breath.

To maintain that no one in the national organization could have predicted that Trump would be political and inappropriate is just silly. That's Trump's M.O.

They are just lucky he didn't falsely accuse someone of a federal crime or sing Putin's praises.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:34 AM
 
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They cheered enthusiastically and enjoyed the speech.
That should be the end of it. Fine group of young people those Boy Scouts. They will go on to "MAGA".
Those boys--most of them 13 to 15 years old--had been at a 10-day festival of "Yay, let's all do stuff together!" It was ten days of "Rah! Rah!" They had been primed to go wherever the guy at the microphone at the moment led them.


You're blaming the victim for the rape.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:34 AM
 
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He could have stood there and told booger jokes and thousands of the kids would have cheered. It was inappropriate to the occasion. PERIOD.

BTW- I do have faith in the kids that ultimately they will have learned a lesson from the fallout of this unfortunate circumstance and go on to make this a better country for everyone.
I agree that this is a teaching moment.

Whether this Scouts cheering and booing along with Trump will go on to make this a better country remains to be seen.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:35 AM
 
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Trump should be apologizing. No doubt about that, but don't hold your breath.

To maintain that no one in the national organization could have predicted that Trump would be political and inappropriate is just silly. That's Trump's M.O.

They are just lucky he didn't falsely accuse someone of a federal crime or sing Putin's praises.
They were probably holding their breath hoping that what happened wouldn't happen. They were probably hoping for a "Poland speech" out of Trump.


To be honest, I didn't even expect that speech.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:39 AM
 
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Those boys--most of them 13 to 15 years old--had been at a 10-day festival of "Yay, let's all do stuff together!" It was ten days of "Rah! Rah!" They had been primed to go wherever the guy at the microphone at the moment led them.


You're blaming the victim for the rape.
That's where the leadership should have stepped up. They knew enough to warn the leaders on the online forum that chanting would be inappropriate. Can you just imagine video clips of Boy Scouts shouting, "Lock her up."

Nobody is blaming the kids. The blame is on the organization.

A character-building organization that stands by while 40,000 boys boo the former President is not living up to its mission.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:41 AM
 
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They were probably holding their breath hoping that what happened wouldn't happen. They were probably hoping for a "Poland speech" out of Trump.


To be honest, I didn't even expect that speech.
An alt-right speech with dog whistles to racists would have been okay?

I don't know about that.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:42 AM
 
Location: The City of Buffalo!
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Why are making this crap up? As someone else has said: Give us a source. It better not be the National Enquirer.
Probably was FOX News.

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I'm too busy LMAO at deranged liberals preparing to go to war with a bunch of kids. Great way to lose a lot of future voters and truly something only liberals could come up with.
Of course, its common knowledge that BSA has long been in the cross hairs of liberals and the leftist MSM due to their past positions on gays/transgenders.
"liberals preparing to go to war??? Hate to break the news, it's capitalistic Republicans that are the hawks fueling the Military Industrial Complex, not Democrats.
"Common knowledge"?? Maybe in some small closely knit circle.

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That Boy Scouts is a conservative-leaning group is not a deal breaker for liberal families. During my years of Cubs building fires in our backyard, most of the other volunteers were liberal-leaning. Higher up in the local hierarchy tended to be more conservative types.
Prime for additional Republican brain washing.

Remember just who is the BS's president. Obvious what the agenda here is. Two peas (capitalists) in a pod.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:44 AM
 
Location: CT
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Trump should be apologizing. No doubt about that, but don't hold your breath.

To maintain that no one in the national organization could have predicted that Trump would be political and inappropriate is just silly. That's Trump's M.O.

They are just lucky he didn't falsely accuse someone of a federal crime or sing Putin's praises.
It's obvious you're not going to be convinced of the BSA's innocence, but although scouting has national leadership, it is a local and regional organization. I was a troop committee member for many years as my kids grew up, I can tell you we had more than one discussion related to ethical and moral decisions as a troop. Our parents came from all walks in life and political views, but ultimately decisions were made with the boys best interests and the scout guidlines in mind. So, if you care about the organization and tenets of scouting, get involved at the local level, one speech by one a-hole isn't going to destroy an organization that has been in place as long, and survived controversies, as the BSA.
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