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Old 08-17-2017, 02:07 PM
 
Location: New York
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Originally Posted by NigerianNightmare View Post
Well five races hasn't been together in the history of the world but lets look at the countries today that are successful.

South Africa- one of the best countries in Africa and has 4 racial/ethnic groups- Whites/ Blacks/ Cape Coloureds.
The two most advanced countries in Africa are Mauritius and Seychelles by HDI, they are both multiracial/multicultural.

Western Europe which on average is about 20% non-white as a region is considered better than Eastern Europe by most measures.

Lets look at the most successful countries (by HDI) and their percent that is one race.
90% White- Norway (between 88% and 92%)
85% White- Australia (Reported 92% but apparently that figure is off)
85% White- Switzerland (this is debatable it is as high as 90%)
88% White- Germany
92% White- Denmark
75% East Asian (88% Asian/Mongoloid overall but mostly Malay people)- Singapore
83% White- Netherlands
93% White- Ireland
98% White- Iceland
72% White- Canada
64% White- U.S.A
94% East Asian (97% Asian/Mongoloid overall mostly Filipinos)- Hong Kong
74% White- New Zealand
84% White- Sweden
94% White- Lichtenstein (debatable number likely higher)
85% White- U.K, England itself is 80% White
99.4% East Asian (98.5% Japanese .5% Korean and .4% Chinese other minorities are so small it is 99.6% Asian/Mongoloid)- Japan
98% East Asian (96% Korean 2% Chinese 99% Asian/Mongoloid)- South Korea
55% Semitic/Middle Eastern (don't know if Jews would be a racial category at 74% of all of Israel, but the largest historical ethno-racial groups of Jews is something like 43% Mizrahi, 38% Ashkenazi, 19% Sephardic)
So, in other words, the more homogeneous a society the better.

 
Old 08-17-2017, 02:08 PM
 
Location: New York
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Because one's skin color is irrelevant, that's why.
Skin color is the result of genetics and evolution of a particular group of people (ie race) how can you say its irrelevant? Literally everything from intellect, athleticism, disease, can be correlated with ones race.
 
Old 08-17-2017, 02:12 PM
 
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There is no question in my mind that a multi-ethnic society can work. we have had periods of American history where it has worked.


What I am also 100% certain of, is that for it to work, we have to get rid of all those among us who are willing to use race as a tool for political gain.
 
Old 08-17-2017, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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We are all familiar with the phrase "diversity is our strength." I would like to know what the historical basis for that is. Sure, US has always been "multi-cultural" but all of those cultures came from the same race/geographic area and were always forced to assimilate into one culture. Where did the idea that a society made up roughly equally of fiver different races would be better than a county of only one race?

I'm not trying to stir the pot here, just trying to learn. Thanks!

In the so-called "United Kingdom", there are three large ethnic groups, that have been persecuted, slaughtered and starved periodically, by the ruling Anglo-Saxons. But yet they continue to function and have stayed together, except for the main part of Ireland, for all this time. The mix of people is being extended by immigration from many parts of the world, but they're still hanging together. Perhaps the "Brexit" issue will divide these groups, but it's yet to be determined. If such blood-enemies can exist in a single nation, it shows that it can be done.
 
Old 08-17-2017, 03:03 PM
 
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Originally Posted by NigerianNightmare View Post
Well five races hasn't been together in the history of the world but lets look at the countries today that are successful.

South Africa- one of the best countries in Africa and has 4 racial/ethnic groups- Whites/ Blacks/ Cape Coloureds.
The two most advanced countries in Africa are Mauritius and Seychelles by HDI, they are both multiracial/multicultural.

Western Europe which on average is about 20% non-white as a region is considered better than Eastern Europe by most measures.

Lets look at the most successful countries (by HDI) and their percent that is one race.
90% White- Norway (between 88% and 92%)
85% White- Australia (Reported 92% but apparently that figure is off)
85% White- Switzerland (this is debatable it is as high as 90%)
88% White- Germany
92% White- Denmark
75% East Asian (88% Asian/Mongoloid overall but mostly Malay people)- Singapore
83% White- Netherlands
93% White- Ireland
98% White- Iceland
72% White- Canada
64% White- U.S.A
94% East Asian (97% Asian/Mongoloid overall mostly Filipinos)- Hong Kong
74% White- New Zealand
84% White- Sweden
94% White- Lichtenstein (debatable number likely higher)
85% White- U.K, England itself is 80% White
99.4% East Asian (98.5% Japanese .5% Korean and .4% Chinese other minorities are so small it is 99.6% Asian/Mongoloid)- Japan
98% East Asian (96% Korean 2% Chinese 99% Asian/Mongoloid)- South Korea
55% Semitic/Middle Eastern (don't know if Jews would be a racial category at 74% of all of Israel, but the largest historical ethno-racial groups of Jews is something like 43% Mizrahi, 38% Ashkenazi, 19% Sephardic)
Did you leave out France on purpose or it isn't a developed country??
 
Old 08-17-2017, 03:13 PM
 
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The US seems to be pretty successful to me, as is the UK, Australia, Canada, etc. Some homogenous countries are also successful (and unsuccessful). There are multiple roads to success, people.
 
Old 08-17-2017, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Russia(without the former Soviet Republics) believe it or not is made up of several different races/ethnicities and they are still one of the more important countries in the world last I checked
Russia is made up of Slavic, Nordic, Mongolic and Islamic cultures which make up the modern identity of Russia today. Russia actually acknowledge its mixed diverse history, only the west who seeks out Racially Purity.
 
Old 08-17-2017, 03:22 PM
 
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Singapore. Yes it's small, but it's the most diverse country on the planet and also has the lowest crime rates on the planet. It's also quite wealthy.

Historically I don't think there are that many incredibly diverse countries, it wasn't until the last hundred years that humans have really started to globally mass migrate.

The most diverse US states are also some of the wealthiest and have the lowest crimes rates. The same is true in Canada and most western countries. The diverse or international areas are the wealthiest and often have lower crime rates.

Tto be honest, I don't think there is any correlation between success and whether a society is homogeneous or multi racial. The wealth of the world is mostly divided into historically European and Asian countries. But at the same time there are diverse societies that are successful, so I don't think history is a good guide on what the future may look like.

This whole "debate" is being pushed for the purpose of nationalism. Strong nationalism as an ideal seldom ends well for a nation.
 
Old 08-17-2017, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Here
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Originally Posted by montydean View Post
We are all familiar with the phrase "diversity is our strength." I would like to know what the historical basis for that is. Sure, US has always been "multi-cultural" but all of those cultures came from the same race/geographic area and were always forced to assimilate into one culture. Where did the idea that a society made up roughly equally of fiver different races would be better than a county of only one race?

I'm not trying to stir the pot here, just trying to learn. Thanks!
I'm going to go on the notion that you are actually not trying to stir the pot. I see you did not mention liberals or the alt right, so that's a good sign that you are actually addressing social issues and not thinly veiled political biasness.

Anyway, a multi-cultural society has some tough sledding to succeed. The problem is that by definition, a multi-cultural society has cultures with different social priorities. One culture might be into the academics while another might have as priorities sports or the arts. One culture might be industrious while another might be more into leisure. These differences creates different income levels, depending on the culture. Most cultures, and in fact most general societies find this scenario unacceptable. America is a good example of these problems. If everyone were to be accepting that different cultures have different priorities which would inevitably result in different standards of living, then there would be no problem. Such is not the case.
 
Old 08-17-2017, 03:38 PM
 
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On a smaller scale, NYC and LA.
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