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Old 09-21-2017, 09:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by craigiri View Post
Maybe Trump can do a couple towers there.

You should get the Patriot Riders to go there and chase out Apple. Google, Facebook and the thousands of other companies worth 100's of billions. Then you can play country music, wear mullets and wife beater T's and make meth in soda bottles.
Or you could have the illegal alien gang members continue to kill people. Or maybe drunk driving illegal aliens can take a few more out. People like you are more concerned about protecting criminals than helping people that actually belong here.

The mental illness with the left in California is mind boggling. Do everyone a favor, secede already and stop blathering on about how much better it is here. It’s not.

By the way, you have enough people making meth in Fresno, so I’m not sure why you want more.
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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DUDE that is a wall of opinion not FACTS.

you are making subjective comparisons between states but providing zero evidence for you conclusions.

your entire post is like your opinion. where is your empireical evidence? i mean it.

How exactly do you determine that "Arizona provides vastly superior services for a lower cost than Los Angeles."
did you hire consultants, did you poll people in both cities?


Maybe jesus whispered it in your ear or maybe you just pulled it out of your bum?

YOU HAVE NOTHING to backup your post, nothing at all. Calling CA's social services third world is simply your prejudices on display for the world.


but best of all is your completely made up claim that as quoted below.

Republicans do like government spending on good, high quality services. Republicans have higher standards than the insane taxes and horrible services provided by the Democrats

that has to be the biggest load of bull i have seen in years. and what is more you know it. it is false on the face of it and can not prove any of it. You have zero proof of any of that. it is just rubbish.
just look at your schools, over all Red states do worse than blue.

just look at this graph that avoids stories and simply shows you how public schools in red state perform vs blue ones. No messing about , no strange data points, just a simple chart showing grad degrees.. what more proof do you need. we can argue nonsense all day but the end result is a crushing blow to Red states. in the end your red states take buckets of federal money and still they just dont do as well.





http://politicsthatwork.com/img/x41....BGgFtNci2.webp
I agree that blue metro areas that tend have more post-graduate degrees per capita than red metro areas.

However, that doesn't mean much when they have absolutely incredible housing costs and extremely high taxes.

Interestingly though how many people in California though with graduate degrees making six-figures before those astronomical California taxes come out of their check are raising families in small apartments.

Even with all those graduate degrees a vast majority of the population lives a much lower standard of living than in a city like Wichita.

Many hyper-educated blue-cities have a super-elite that is around 10 percent of the population, very few middle-class people and a massive, struggling underclass that is living one paycheck from the streets.

I don't understand why with all these advanced degrees why there such an incredible amount of scarcity and deprivation of resources from so many.

Why does a majority of the population in certain cities like Wichita have a nice house even though a vast majority don't have a graduate degree while San Francisco liberals think a decent sized, sanitary apartment should be priced so only a small elite can afford that.
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:58 PM
 
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You are so angry. Good for you for making so much money.

California is far from a dump. It is a beautiful state aside from the politics. I would move back there in a heart beat if it wasn't so expensive.
That’s the shame of it. It is a beautiful state. If the politicians were sane it’d be great here. You were wise to get out.
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Old 09-21-2017, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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I agree that blue metro areas that tend have more post-graduate degrees per capita than red metro areas.

However, that doesn't mean much when they have absolutely incredible housing costs and extremely high taxes.

Interestingly though how many people in California though with graduate degrees making six-figures before those astronomical California taxes come out of their check are raising families in small apartments.

Even with all those graduate degrees a vast majority of the population lives a much lower standard of living than in a city like Wichita.

Many hyper-educated blue-cities have a super-elite that is around 10 percent of the population, very few middle-class people and a massive, struggling underclass that is living one paycheck from the streets.

I don't understand why with all these advanced degrees why there such an incredible amount of scarcity and deprivation of resources from so many.

Why does a majority of the population in certain cities like Wichita have a nice house even though a vast majority don't have a graduate degree while San Francisco liberals think a decent sized, sanitary apartment should be priced so only a small elite can afford that.
What's your deal with Wichita? How many threads have you had with CA bashing and Wichita defense?

Different people have different priorities. I don't need a big house - - I live in the city with the best weather in the United States. Why would I want to be inside all of the time? I live six blocks from the beach - - I'm a professor, my wife is a high school teacher, and we have two kids. We're not in debt, we're saving money, and we're nowhere near the super elite. It's not that terribly hard to do.
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Old 09-21-2017, 11:13 PM
 
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The righties here are so paranoid they don't even think somebody has the right to file a lawsuit. Sad!
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No, but this guy here suggested that it was. That's who I was responding to.
Oh my bad, not sure why I thought it was a sweeping generalization.
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Old 09-22-2017, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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The infrastructure problem is because of two reasons
-. American developers wouldn't know what density was if it slapped them across the face.
-People don't believe in public transportation in the U.S and because we didn't eminent domain rail or other infrastructure 30 years ago the problem has gotten even worse and now their are even more houses that need to be eminent domaines for rail.

For example the suburbs of Tokyo on average hold a density between 20,000 ppsm and 40,000 ppsm. While are roads are too wide to get that type of density things like parking lot codes etcetera make it impossible for a U.S suburb to even hit 20,000 ppsm let alone get into that range. In fact most suburbs are at 2,000ppsm to 5,000ppsm.
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Old 09-22-2017, 05:08 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I'd ask if you're serious. But I know you are...
If you would study the Constitution and realize exactly what it is, a contract between the States which created the Federal Government, and in doing so, the States delegated certain powers to the Federal Government, you would understand that what I said is true.

California cannot, nor any other State, make their own immigration and naturalization policies. Such policies violate the Constitution, which delegated that authority to the Federal Government alone, so that such policies would be "uniform."

Illegal aliens must not be treated differently in one state than they are in another. They must not be issued a drivers license in one state, which, being illegal, would then be forced by other states to be recognized. And if California went even further, and granted them all rights of citizenship, that too would require other states to recognize those rights.

Can you begin to see the problem? That is why immigration policy was delegated to the Federal Government alone. All states must comply with Federal Law.

As regards the border wall, it is the responsibility of the Federal Government to secure our borders. California has no choice in the matter. U.S. Border Security is not under the authority of the State of California. They may have no say in the matter. Their lawsuit is frivolous and without merit.
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Old 09-22-2017, 05:16 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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These people are hell bent on allowing in as many third world illegal immigrants as possible. When California becomes the hell hole it's importing and bankrupts itself with reckless fiscal irresponsibility these people will be fleeing to more stable states. Something needs to be done about this state. The elites want their slave labor and the Dems want their votes. Why aren't their working class CITIZENS speaking up?


California suing Trump over border wall, escalating battle with White House | Fox News
Too bad the link doesn't work.
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Old 09-22-2017, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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What's your deal with Wichita? How many threads have you had with CA bashing and Wichita defense?

Different people have different priorities. I don't need a big house - - I live in the city with the best weather in the United States. Why would I want to be inside all of the time? I live six blocks from the beach - - I'm a professor, my wife is a high school teacher, and we have two kids. We're not in debt, we're saving money, and we're nowhere near the super elite. It's not that terribly hard to do.
This, I'd rather live in an apartment in a big metro with good weather, than live in a mansion in a backwoods with $#!++y weather.

I've been to Wichita, back when I was an OTR driver (thank god those days are over), and it's probably one of the most depressing places I've been to. Wichita makes Oklahoma City look like Miami Beach in comparison!
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Old 09-22-2017, 05:37 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Since when is filing a lawsuit unconstitutional?

Funny, the person filing the lawsuit says that Trump is violating the constitution!

The righties here are so paranoid they don't even think somebody has the right to file a lawsuit. Sad!
What is the point of filing a lawsuit against the Federal Government for doing the job the Constitution requires it to do, securing our borders?

The state of California has no say in the matter. They aren't in charge of U.S. border security. The Federal Government is.

Lastly, it is the responsibility of the Governor of any State to see that the Laws of the United States are upheld.
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