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Old 09-30-2017, 04:47 PM
 
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Why do Conservatives hate the Constitution? or at least every part of it besides the 2nd Amendment?
Because they're authoritarian and hate freedom.
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Old 09-30-2017, 04:49 PM
 
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The Constitution (specifically, the 1st amendment) never applies to pupils. Or parents. or teachers. Or bus drivers or anyone else.

It applies to government. And no one else.

Govt is forbidden to abridge the freedom of speech. And no one else is.

Only to the extent that government is running schools, are teachers, principals etc. forbidden to abridge the freedom of speech.

The solution to this is simple. The problem is, govt having too much influence in schools. Get the government out of schools, and the problem is solved. Let locally elected school boards run the school boards instead. And let them charge levies to residents to support the schools, instead of Federal tax money.

Problem solved.

Now, wasn't that easy? Look at all the problems it would clear up. No only would locals finally be in charge of their own schools, able to impose their own will on schools they pay for, but students would even be able to PRAY in school if the parents want.

An extra benefit, is that the Federal government would finally be in conformance with the Constitution with regard to non-military schools, for the first time in more than a century, as the Framers originally intended.

I am in agreement with you on this.
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Old 09-30-2017, 04:50 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Because they're authoritarian and hate freedom.


Hahaha! Adding to the ignorance. ^^^^^
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Old 09-30-2017, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Well, this country sucks and doesn't offer much freedom or liberty anymore, so really no values left to respect.

Maybe once we get rid of the dictator in the White House, the Republican traitors in Congress, and the cave-dwelling cult that enables them, we can return to respect what American is supposed to stand for.

Until then, we're no better than 3rd world dictatorships.
Silliest post of the week.
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Old 09-30-2017, 07:25 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Why do Conservatives hate the Constitution? or at least every part of it besides the 2nd Amendment?
One of the most common leftist diversions when they can't refute the original point, is to say something like "Why is it that...." followed by some lie about Republicans or conservatives, such as this example. Apparently the liberals losers are trying to get the Republican to start defending himself for something he never did instead of arguing his original point.

Back to the subject:
Big-govt leftists have been relying for more than a century on a few key principles for pushing their agenda onto people who aren't paying much attention... which is most Americans in our case.
(a) Publish what you want them to believe as widely as possible, so they will take for granted that it's true and legitimate without checking. If it's getting that many headlines, it must be true, right?; and
(b) Proselytize the young, who are eager for spectacular and simple "solutions" and more likely to take your word without thinking things through.

Both are seen going full blast as various sports figures are kneeling or sitting during playings of the National Anthem at televised sports events. None of these "protesting" players ever mention that more black people are shot or killed by black policemen than by white policemen (despite the smaller number of black policemen on the force). They simply announce that whites are the problem, and hope people take their word for it. Corrections, if any, only come hours later on news broadcasts, and only a few of those.

Now the leftists' poison is spreading farther and farther, as facts lag for behind wishful thinking, as the leftists had hoped. A 1st grader took a knee during the daily recitation of the Pledge of Alliegence in his school classroom. Do you suppose the 6-year-old kid had any clue of the reality of the feigned "plague of racism" the leftists claim is at work, despite all facts?
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Old 09-30-2017, 08:21 PM
 
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Get the government out of schools, and the problem is solved. Let locally elected school boards run the school boards instead. And let them charge levies to residents to support the schools, instead of Federal tax money.

Problem solved.

Now, wasn't that easy?
What's that saying - for every problem there is a solution that's simple, clean and wrong? You don't get to circumvent the First by declaring that it's just local government. Nice touch on calling the taxes "levies", though.
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Old 09-30-2017, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Someone needs to take a warm hand to his rear.
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Old 09-30-2017, 08:26 PM
 
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One of the most common leftist diversions when they can't refute the original point, is to say something like "Why is it that...." followed by some lie about Republicans or conservatives..
You're the one clamoring to use the force of government to implement rules for a loyalty demonstration.

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Again? Just who in this debate wants government (local or otherwise) to enforce patriotism? It was the nitwit that you elected who decided this should be part of the national agenda. He could have stayed above the fray, but noooo....

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They simply announce that whites are the problem
This is,. of course, a complete fabrication.
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Now the leftists' poison is spreading farther and farther
Your idiot-in-charge decided to put this front and center through his brilliant tweeting habit.
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Old 09-30-2017, 08:27 PM
 
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Someone needs to take a warm hand to his rear.
Well, yes. But the Secret Service would likely object.
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Old 09-30-2017, 08:41 PM
 
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Yes, like all the flag-waving, bible-thumping 'Murka folks who don't seem to have a good grasp of The Constitution.

And btw, standing for the pledge because 'everyone else is doing it' and not really understanding why is just as bad as kneeling for it and not really understanding why.
Iḿ guessing you don't live in one of those countries that have mandatory military service. LMAO! Talk about patriotic. How about a little service with that? People don't realize how lucky they are to live here.
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