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I have never know anyone personally who has stopped a criminal by having a gun, which includes myself as a young woman and as young married woman whose husband owned guns after a home robbery attempt.
Personally, I have had more contacts with gun owners shooting themselves and others; coworker who was shot by her ex with her own gun, elderly neighbor who shot her invalid husband in his wheelchair, and just last June childhood friend with cancer who shot himself in the head in his home for his wife to find him.
I have known someone personally who has stopped a criminal by having a gun.
He was a retired Colonel I work for in the 80s. He was going down to the gun smith to have his pistol worked on when at a stop light, someone got in his car and tried to rob him. He invited the would be thief to sit still as he dropped him off at the police station.
Perhaps in my years, I can recall others.....but that Colonel immediately comes to mine.
Equally, I knew a Major who took his head off in the backyard with a shotgun. One of my elementary school friends died as a teen at a party by someone who thought the gun was empty and was playing a joke.
Ever heard of guerilla warfare? It's the reason why American forces weren't able tp "pacify" most of the rural regions of Vietnam. why the Soviet Union failed in Afghanistan, and why neither a hostile invading force, nor a bureaucracy full of do-gooders would have any hope of subjugating rural America.
Let's make a deal; stay within the confines of your little blue safe space, and we'll have no need to force our thinking on you.
Do me a favor: if my posts bother you so, place me on ignore. I will not listen to you or anyone else as to what topics I may or may not post on.
The fact that you and others believe its totally impossible for a government to use its strongest weapons against its own citizens completely invalidates the entire militia argument you've all been bandying about for years. And yet you don't see it. Amazing.
Do me a favor: if my posts bother you so, place me on ignore. I will not listen to you or anyone else as to what topics I may or may not post on.
The fact that you and others believe its totally impossible for a government to use its strongest weapons against its own citizens completely invalidates the entire militia argument you've all been bandying about for years. And yet you don't see it. Amazing.
I reuse to let you off the hook by ignoring a threat; the fact that you responded in the manner you did merely underscores your inability to present a coherent rebuttal.
Of all the mass killings in North America since Howard Unruh's rampage back in 1949, the incident linked below probably bears the closest resemblance to Sunday's tragedy.
There are lessons to be learned here, and the outcome probably won't satisfy either of the two extreme positions, but a closer look at contributing factors and the less-polarizing steps taken at the time would at least provide a starting point.
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I have never know anyone personally who has stopped a criminal by having a gun, which includes myself as a young woman and as young married woman whose husband owned guns after a home robbery attempt.
Personally, I have had more contacts with gun owners shooting themselves and others; coworker who was shot by her ex with her own gun, elderly neighbor who shot her invalid husband in his wheelchair, and just last June childhood friend with cancer who shot himself in the head in his home for his wife to find him.
Actually you have only two valid examples, since as has been pointed out, there is no correlation between gun control and suicide control. Japan has gun control to the point where there Olympic athletes in shooting sports have to leave the country to train, yet Japan has a higher suicide rate than the U.S.
I have personally stopped a criminal with a gun, years ago when I was working graveyard shift at a convenience store, and turned away an armed robbery attempt by virtue of having a gun. No shots were fired. The would-be robber ran out the door and was not apprehended. But hopefully he learned a lesson and found a different way to get money.
America is Not giving up its guns, try and find yourself gone either politically or physically. Wrap you head around that Fact. There will be no Confiscations, there will be no Voluntary Turn In's of guns, there will be no Australian Style Reforms, and there will be no new invasive Laws to curtail the Right to Bear Arms. The sooner some of you realize that Fact the better, even many on the Left stand against stupid gun laws that would have Zero effect.
The Problem is Not guns, they were everywhere when I was a kid, we did not have this issue, the Problem is Us. Deal with the criminals and then address the Real Problem, the mental health issue that is plaguing this Nation. We as a People need to Learn and then accept the Fact that we have a major problem and it is not guns, it is People that need help surviving in our Society, which anyone with half a brain knows is not being addressed. We love to blame a tool for the actions People do, and yet are quick to ignore the underlying problem, does that make any sense. We are the Problem, not guns, or cars, or knives, WE are the problem.
Now does anyone want to talk about mental health, or is whining about the tool they used more comforting?
Heads out of arse folks,
Thanks,
now back to whatever it was you were doing....................Done with this.......
I reuse to let you off the hook by ignoring a threat; the fact that you responded in the manner you did merely underscores your inability to present a coherent rebuttal.
Of all the mass killings in North America since Howard Unruh's rampage back in 1949, the incident linked below probably bears the closest resemblance to Sunday's tragedy.
There are lessons to be learned here, and the outcome probably won't satisfy either of the two extreme positions, but a closer look at contributing factors and the less-polarizing steps taken at the time would at least provide a starting point.
I have no clue what you are talking about.
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