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Old 10-03-2017, 12:05 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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America and their car fetish, the highest speed limit in the U.S.A is 85 mph you don't need a car that goes faster than that all cars should have a regulator limiting the speed or be banned. Those looking to increase their cars performance and horsepower should be looked at by the government they obviously are a potential menace on the road.

That goes for motorcycles also.....
This is what "progressivism" looks like. Extreme Leftists want to get in your face and control everything.
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Old 10-03-2017, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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No. We should get rid of speed limits on highways, especially outside of the major metro areas.
I'm for that! My car can hit 204 mph but I would employ survival mode to limit how fast I drove anyway.
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Old 10-03-2017, 12:12 PM
 
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The point you are missing is that if we capped all car speeds to 30mph we'd save tens of thousands of lives annually.

Another would be to make breath testers MANDATORY in all cars to reduce drunk driving which would also save many thousands of lives annually.

See, you can still have your car we're just going to put some "reasonable restrictions" on them to prevent deaths.

Accidental or Intentional they're still preventable deaths.
i am not missing any point. I see the OPs intent to conflate two completely different issues.

and btw car deaths are declining steadily even as car usage breaks records... we are already on a path to extremely low death rates and in one generation will have solved 95% of the problem even if we just stay the course.

You cannot say the same about guns, the problem is getting worse .
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Old 10-03-2017, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by lionking View Post
America and their car fetish, the highest speed limit in the U.S.A is 85 mph you don't need a car that goes faster than that all cars should have a regulator limiting the speed or be banned. Those looking to increase their cars performance and horsepower should be looked at by the government they obviously are a potential menace on the road.

That goes for motorcycles also.....
Why would we do that? How about tougher driving lessons and licensing rules? People in Europe drive very fast, but appear to be better drivers.

If this is a safety issue, banning cellphones would save more lives.
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Old 10-03-2017, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Maybe we should treat cars and guns the same.

Background check for both.
Licence to use both.
Insurance to protect others required on both.
Registering both to the owner.
Yearly renewal of "tags" and regular renewal of licenses.
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Old 10-03-2017, 12:48 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Maybe we should treat cars and guns the same.

Background check for both.
Licence to use both.
Insurance to protect others required on both.
Registering both to the owner.
Yearly renewal of "tags" and regular renewal of licenses.
Agreed, but not for all guns and cars. Hunting guns the "good" guns should be exempt as well as cars that don't go over 85 mph as far as license to own, (that is separate from license to use aka driver license).


Those that don't renew in time we can just penalize them in the tax return. You want to own a AR-15 or a BMW M3 or Corvette, then pay for it in fees and do the back ground check to make sure you are not some crazed person, a certified doctors note stating you are of sound mind and open inspections by the government.
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Old 10-03-2017, 12:50 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Why are you a communist? Why are you against personal freedom?
you are just selfish unwilling to compromise for the sake of all, probably a middle aged white guy wanting a Corvette to remember his youth and a extention of the penis.
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Old 10-03-2017, 12:52 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Really? Is this what you sit around and worry about?
Wonder what he thinks about magazine capacity!
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Old 10-03-2017, 12:53 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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you are just selfish unwilling to compromise for the sake of all, probably a middle aged white guy wanting a Corvette to remember his youth and a extention of the penis.
Yes, we in America are individuals. Not busy body socialists.
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Old 10-03-2017, 12:55 PM
 
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Why would we do that? How about tougher driving lessons and licensing rules? People in Europe drive very fast, but appear to be better drivers.

If this is a safety issue, banning cellphones would save more lives.
AI is the answer and it will solve most of the car accidental deaths problem.

Guns however have no tech to "brake" for when the user makes a mistake or murders people on purpose.

and frankly any attempts to put in checkpoints , make guns safer, limit access (like cars require you pass a test and carry insurance) are instantly attacked


it is all about money not amendments or freedoms.
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