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Old 11-01-2017, 09:18 AM
 
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The guy who rented a truck in New Jersey and then drove to New York and mowed down innocent pedestrians and cyclists.

That's who to blame. That's who to fault.
Thank you.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:20 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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We don't know? What terrorist organization was the NYC killer from? He wasn't actually part of ISIS, he just supported their cause based on his radicalization in this country.

I'm not sure why you're trying to argue terrorism isn't that bad if it's a white guy with no known affiliations, but if a Muslim does it, suddenly we need to ban the world.

Right-wing domestic terrorism is a bigger threat in the US than Islamic terrorism, yet all you care about is the latter. Or perhaps you don't recall a Trump supporting Nazi doing the exact same thing in Charlottesville that this Muslim terrorist did in New York.
You really can’t see the difference, can you?

The Vegas white guy is not following some kind of ideology that have many followers. In fact, there are none other than him. Meanwhile, this jihadist from yesterday follows a terrorist organization that has an endless number of followers worldwide.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:20 AM
 
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You can thank eight years of loser Obama and his diversity lottery green cards! He destroyed this country!
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:20 AM
 
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Does anyone really believe that "extreme vetting" would prevent an attack like this? The most law-abiding model immigrant today might morph into a lone wolf attacker several years later. It's impossible to predict who is going to rent a truck or not.

It doesn't matter to Trump whether or not "extreme vetting" will really work. All he cares about is scoring points with his base. He is truly a demogogue.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:21 AM
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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And what “terrorist” organization is that Vegas white guy from/following?
So a person is only a terrorist if they are from, or following a terrorist organization? You are saying Paddock was not a terrorist? Or that killing all those people in Vegas means less than the 8 in NYC because he was white? Exactly what stupidity are you trying to spout with this statement?
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:22 AM
 
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Does anyone really believe that "extreme vetting" would prevent an attack like this? The most law-abiding model immigrant today might morph into a lone wolf attacker several years later. It's impossible to predict who is going to rent a truck or not.

It doesn't matter to Trump whether or not "extreme vetting" will really work. All he cares about is scoring points with his base. He is truly a demogogue.
That is a load of total b.s.! It would certainly help! Although, the damage has been done because they are already here thanks to Obama and his diversity green card lottery. You liberals want diversity; well, you certainly have it. Sadly, it’s at the expense of American citizens.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:23 AM
 
Location: PSL
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Does anyone really believe that "extreme vetting" would prevent an attack like this? The most law-abiding model immigrant today might morph into a lone wolf attacker several years later. It's impossible to predict who is going to rent a truck or not.

It doesn't matter to Trump whether or not "extreme vetting" will really work. All he cares about is scoring points with his base. He is truly a demogogue.
Replace going to rent a truck with going to buy a gun. Would you still hold that same argument or still call for more control measures?
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:24 AM
 
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So a person is only a terrorist if they are from, or following a terrorist organization? You are saying Paddock was not a terrorist? Or that killing all those people in Vegas means less than the 8 in NYC because he was white? Exactly what stupidity are you trying to spout with this statement?
What is the definition of terrorism?
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:24 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Is it important to know what their race and place of birth are if they rob you? The only reason to find who "who" did it is to catch and arrest them.

Your analogy fails.
Actually, yes you do need to know if the person is white, black or whatever. Part of “who” we are is our race.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:25 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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At least we are finally off of the bump stock concept as the problem.
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