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Old 11-01-2017, 08:29 AM
 
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The guy who rented a truck in New Jersey and then drove to New York and mowed down innocent pedestrians and cyclists.

That's who to blame. That's who to fault.
Just like the shooting in Vega, the shooter was the one at fault. Not the bump stock, the type of firearm or how many he had, right ?
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:34 AM
 
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Just like the shooting in Vega, the shooter was the one at fault. Not the bump stock, the type of firearm or how many he had, right ?
No, that is different. That was the NRA and the guns fault.
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:35 AM
 
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Oh btw, Schumer was part of the group that got rid of the Diversity Visa Program.

https://twitter.com/JeffFlake/status/925703028560232448

Trump should stop following Faux News. They should stick to Hamburger Emojis and leave the real news to professionals.

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In March 2007, Congressman Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) introduced H.R. 1430, which would eliminate the diversity visa program. In June 2007, the U.S. House passed H.R. 2764 to eliminate funding for the program, and the Senate did likewise in September.[SIZE=2][11][/SIZE] However, the final version of this bill with amendments, signed into law on December 26, 2007, did not include the removal of funds for the program. Several attempts have been made over the last several years to eliminate the lottery. Although H.R. 2764 was an appropriation bill and could only cut funds for the lottery during one fiscal year, this was the first time that both the House and the Senate passed a bill to halt the diversity visa program. H.R. 2764
Rep. Goodlatte reintroduced his Security and Fairness Enhancement for America Act (formerly H.R. 1430, now H.R. 2305) on May 7, 2009. The bill would have amended the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the diversity immigrant program completely, but did not pass. Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX) introduced the Save America Comprehensive Immigration Act of 2009 (H.R. 264) on January 7, 2009. The bill would have doubled the number of diversity visas available to 110,000 yearly. The bill did not pass.[SIZE=2][12][/SIZE] If it had passed, the Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 would have abolished the program in fiscal year 2015. A comprehensive analysis of DV lottery issues was prepared in 2011 by Congressional Research Service.[SIZE=2][10[/SIZE]





https://travel.state.gov/content/vis...isa/entry.html
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:36 AM
 
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No, that is different. That was the NRA and the guns fault.

Please tell me that was sarcasm...
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:36 AM
 
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Maybe you could explain to me how those policies would have prevented this tragedy when the perpetrator came to America in 2010.
Perhaps Saipov wasn't vetted properly, or at all, in 2010 when he was allowed to become a permanent resident in America under a lottery visa program? We don't know yet if these murders and injuries of innocent people in New York City could "have been prevented". Your question is unanswerable until more facts are known about this Muslim who committed this terrorist attack in the name of ISIS.
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:37 AM
 
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Please tell me that was sarcasm...
Confirmed. Sarcasm.
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:38 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Oh btw, Schumer was part of the group that got rid of the Diversity Visa Program.

https://twitter.com/JeffFlake/status/925703028560232448

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Old 11-01-2017, 08:38 AM
 
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Confirmed. Sarcasm.
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:39 AM
 
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Who is more popular in NY - Schumer or Trump? It is not even close.
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:40 AM
 
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Oh btw, Schumer was part of the group that got rid of the Diversity Visa Program.

https://twitter.com/JeffFlake/status/925703028560232448

...
Which means this thread title is a lie.
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