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Old 01-13-2018, 06:42 PM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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Well of course. Haiti was paying France what ended up being a total of $21 billion as reparations until 1947. France extorted those monies, threatening to invade and re-enslave Haitians if they didn’t pay them for their loss of slaves. The U.S. and the other European powers with slaves supported France and refused to trade with Haiti. That’s why Haiti was poor prior to the Duvaliers. The colonial powers didn’t want their slaves getting any ideas about become independent.
Great. So France should be made to fix the mess they made in Haiti... and leave the US out of it. And send our Haitian refugees over to France. They all speak French, so they should do just fine. Or France should pay America to deal with Haiti.
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:46 PM
 
Location: NC
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To your other points--I think many more people are worried that there is an unqualified man sitting in the WH than care about political correctness. I'm sure if you go out and pull the data out of polls, you will find the majority are much more concerned that he is not qualified than care about being PC.

So I pretty much disagree with your treatise other than your comment that Trump is totally unqualified. His inappropriate tweets and behavior stem from the fact that he is, in fact, unqualified and unfit for the office.
get your feelings/emotions out of policy.

did you really suggest polls??

unqualified and unfit is garbage that is parroted from the TDS crowd, which you have made yourself a part of, congrats!
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:48 PM
 
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What in the world are you talking about? Those who currently occupy Haiti overwhelmingly descend from Africans brought there as slaves by the French.

So what centuries before paying France are you talking about? Before that, the Haiti as we know it did not exist.

Goodness gracious. Read a book already.
So so very hard to have an intelligent discourse when there is such a dearth of world history education. Pressing random keys while blindfolded would result in more coherent posts.
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:05 PM
 
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Great. So France should be made to fix the mess they made in Haiti... and leave the US out of it. And send our Haitian refugees over to France. They all speak French, so they should do just fine. Or France should pay America to deal with Haiti.
If anyone wishes to pay to get Haiti up to 3rd world standards, they should be free to do so.

We have no responsibility as a nation to do so.

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Old 01-13-2018, 08:02 PM
 
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No. The problem is... that once here, refugees and illegal immigrants only focus on trying to stay in America, not go back to improve their broken country.

I think that the refugee system is very cruel. Think of the saying "a luxury once sampled becomes a necessity"... we should never take in foreigners in times of crisis. We should only send aid and keep them there. It's cruel to let them sample a taste of life in a First World Country, then send them back. And it's not fair to their children either. BTW I don't want refugees to ever stay in America forever.

I also don't like that immigrants send US money back to their home countries. The money they earn should stay in this country.
There's a small population in my town of folks from Sierra Leone. Small, but large enough to close a main street downtown during a Saturday morning to have a parade complete with floats.

They aren't refugees or illegals - not the ones who are my clientele, as far as I am aware.

They work hard (mostly adult males) in construction type jobs or anything other job they can find. Many work 7 days a week. They send money back home while living with friends, family members, someone's brother who they knew back in SL, etc.

What they don't send back, they save almost every dime of & with the sole INTENT of going back home to "live like a king". Not my words...

But that's about it. They're here to work, save money & get back to Africa after a few years where a dollar apparently goes a long way. They leave their wives & children because it would be too expensive to bring them along.

Anyway, yesterday one of my favorite clients from SL walked in to the business. Another client, who was leaving (they obviously knew each other) said to him, "Hey, did you know you're from a ****hole county?"

The reply was, "You ever been there?" It IS a ****hole".
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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PC is a tool of communist subversion. Its anti-intellectual, aggressive, oppressive, and just plain STUPID. And only stupid aggressive commies promote it.
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:37 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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Interesting that the “good people on every side” perspective is quickly disposed when it involves certain people. No, Haiti is not well-developed and has a litany of problems. However, it has many amazing, hard-working people and such a rich culture. So no, I would never describe it in the manner that Trump did.

And you are DEAD WRONG because Haiti is definitely on my list of places to visit! It is beautiful! It has many very poor places that may be tough to see but it is beautiful still! I will definitely be visiting the Citadelle, Labadee, Kokoye Beach and going out to dance kompa! If my trip was all expenses paid, I would give my job notice next week.

And Mexico, Americans go there all the time and enjoy the beauty of the country.

Trump doesn’t understand beauty outside of wealth because that is what he knows and chooses to remain ignorant. Many Americans are similar, even when they aren’t wealthy. There is nothing wrong being wealthy or working to build wealth but it is a shame when you cannot see beauty outside of it.
When you do go to Haiti, how about you go explore the ENTIRE island??? Outside of the tourist areas, most dwellings don't even have bathrooms inside of them. Instead one has to find a public latrine or just squat behind anything that can hide what you want to do. And there is a company that is trying to solve this problem with renting out compostable toilets to Haitians.

https://www.oursoil.org/what-we-do/d...ed-sanitation/

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Imagine having no option but to endanger your family’s health and poison your environment every time you had to use the bathroom. This is the reality for over 75% of Haiti’s population who lack access to safe sanitation, and it’s where SOIL’s work began: with simple, safe, ecofriendly composting toilets.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:39 PM
 
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When you do go to Haiti, how about you go explore the ENTIRE island??? Outside of the tourist areas, most dwellings don't even have bathrooms inside of them. Instead one has to find a public latrine or just squat behind anything that can hide what you want to do. And there is a company that is trying to solve this problem with renting out compostable toilets to Haitians.

https://www.oursoil.org/what-we-do/d...ed-sanitation/
That company is certainly filling a widespread need.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:45 PM
 
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obama proved that anybody can be president, so when anybody does, all they do is complaint the he not qualified, well neither was obama.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I love my filipina wife but she is from a ****hole country.
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