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Old 01-13-2018, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Haiti was an abomination centuries before, and running right up to Duvalier.
Well that's not an excuse to act nasty and insulting.

BTW, the Haitian immigrants in the USA are better educated than the US population as a whole.

Really, stop being an apologist for the Xenophobe in Chief.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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No. The problem is... that once here, refugees and illegal immigrants only focus on trying to stay in America, not go back to improve their broken country.

I think that the refugee system is very cruel. Think of the saying "a luxury once sampled becomes a necessity"... we should never take in foreigners in times of crisis. We should only send aid and keep them there. It's cruel to let them sample a taste of life in a First World Country, then send them back. And it's not fair to their children either. BTW I don't want refugees to ever stay in America forever.

I also don't like that immigrants send US money back to their home countries. The money they earn should stay in this country.
Really? Aren't you of Asian origin? You don't have relatives overseas?

As an Asian American, I'm actually ashamed of your generally hateful screeds attacking many different ethnic groups (you particularly have it really for African Americans and Latinos).
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:19 PM
 
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BTW, the Haitian immigrants in the USA are better educated than the US population as a whole.

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That should be a prereq for immigrating here, which the RAISE Act would insure happens.

We do not need uneducated immigrants, as most jobs they could do will be automated in the next few years, and already Americans in that same labor pool are not fully employed.

At the same time, we should not accept offshore educational credentials as equal to ours, w/o additional testing using US standards to gauge that.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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One has to accurate identify the problem before it can be solved, thus the problem with political correctness.
No. People use political correctness as a bad faith argument - call it a weak hall pass to be rude, crude and insulting.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:25 PM
 
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That should be a prereq for immigrating here, which the RAISE Act would insure happens.

We do not need uneducated immigrants, as most jobs they could do will be automated in the next few years, and already Americans in that same labor pool are not fully employed.

At the same time, we should not accept offshore educational credentials as equal to ours, w/o additional testing using US standards to gauge that.

Exactly, which means many Americans will be out of a job no matter what skill level they have. It's not illegal immigrants taking jobs away....it's automation.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:34 PM
 
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Exactly, which means many Americans will be out of a job no matter what skill level they have. It's not illegal immigrants taking jobs away....it's automation.
So we have no need to import more people. I agree.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:40 PM
 
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So we have no need to import more people. I agree.
Well whoelse is going to work at Trump's properties?
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:44 PM
 
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Well whoelse is going to work at Trump's properties?
Mostly, native citizens, just like always.

Hotels do use work visas. Ct had a hotel once owned by liberal George McGovern who imported foreign workers, saying they could not find citizens to be desk clerks.

But overall, hotels staff with citizens.

Until robots take those jobs.
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Old 01-13-2018, 11:51 PM
 
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When you do go to Haiti, how about you go explore the ENTIRE island??? Outside of the tourist areas, most dwellings don't even have bathrooms inside of them. Instead one has to find a public latrine or just squat behind anything that can hide what you want to do. And there is a company that is trying to solve this problem with renting out compostable toilets to Haitians.

https://www.oursoil.org/what-we-do/d...ed-sanitation/
Just like Costa Rica.

Go outside of the tourist traps....it's a poor, 3rd world country.
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Old 01-14-2018, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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As with the POTUS, a lack of knowledge about immigrants and immigration. Leaving ones home is hard and the last attempt to survive.
How do you know he has a lack of knowledge about that? Do you know his history and experience in that subject?
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