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Old 01-28-2018, 05:27 PM
 
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The Brits were machine gunning the world - the French cutting off the heads of the elite, etc. - just a short time ago. They changed.

The Scandinavians were some of the most brutal people on the planet - also having to scratch out a living. They don't have anywhere near the resources of Russia.

And yet they have become rich and civilized...
That's basically because all these nations are in the same camp that promotes the idea that money rule the world.
Russia works as a tool that withstand this idea ( even though they have traitors among them, particularly on governmental level, that LOVE to serve the "golden calf.")

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In general, the US should leave Russia alone - EXCEPT, now that Putin has decided to involve himself in our elections and special KGB operations, the gloves have to come off.
it should have left Russia alone much earlier - i.e. in the nineties, instead of attempting that country to serve the interests of American corporations.

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I think much of this is backfiring on Russia (sanctions) and - if and when we get a sane government here in the USA, you better believe Russia won't be a preferred trading partner if they decide they want to spend their time and money buying Facebook and Twitter ads to get their fav candidates elected.
Yes the sanctions backfire on them, but in response Russia will rally China, Iran ( and whoever else is out there.) It's not going to be a pretty sight. As I've said, the US shouldn't have attempted to turn this country into colony to begin with..

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Do Russians like liars? I'm trying to figure out what they see in Trump...who, by any measure, is one of the most unpleasant people on the world stage and a liar who puts other politicians to shame. I doubt Russia has ignorant people like don the con in positions of power....so why would you want to deal with a fool?
I don't think they cared whether it was Trump or Sanders.
As long as it was not Clinton.

 
Old 01-28-2018, 05:59 PM
 
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Yes, that's the bill of goods I am peddling more or less.
Navalny already knows that he has no chance to run for president, he knows that his support is not all that big, and he won't get any reinforcement from the "left" forces as it used to be before. Because he already betrayed Sergey Udaltsov, who stood with him side by side during previous protests. ( Udaltsov talked about it all, once he was set free from jail where he spent few years.)
So why Navalny even bothers?
It's obvious that his actions will do no good to anyone, since the biggest part of Putin's opposition is running the election campaign the legal way, and calling people to vote, against Navalny's appeals to ignore the elections.

Therefore why is he there, instigating the mass protest, for anything other than *engineering his own arrest?*
But then, again, may be his American overseers are paying him for these actions?
I really don't know.
I guess my days of not taking you seriously are coming to a middle.
 
Old 01-28-2018, 06:00 PM
 
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He's a great guy if you run offshore banks!

"Credit Suisse has described Russian wealth inequality as so extreme compared to other countries that it "deserves to be placed in a separate category."One study estimates that "the wealth held offshore by rich Russians is about three times larger than official net foreign reserves, and is comparable in magnitude to total household financial assets held in Russia.""
 
Old 01-28-2018, 06:03 PM
 
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Like loves to watch child pornography and rape children bad? Seems there is an endless amount of hate against him when at worst he's guilty of having his friends make facebook posts against Hillary.
Damn Russian bots.
 
Old 01-28-2018, 06:05 PM
 
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Yes the sanctions backfire on them, but in response Russia will rally China, Iran ( and whoever else is out there.) It's not going to be a pretty sight. As I've said, the US shouldn't have attempted to turn this country into colony to begin with..
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Well, you can't blame that on "the people" here - Multinational corporations and banks have their own plans and they will screw us as much as they will you (and they have screwed us already)....

No, the US Citizen on the street wants nothing to do with Russia. In fact, I support a Russian sphere of influence in their own neighborhood.

Most sane US Citizens do not like policing the world. But there is a lot of money in it and the Authoritarians (who elected Trump) will do ANYTHING others tell them to. So by getting him elected.....you probably made it so it will be many more decades before the US learns the lesson. You provided a convenient fight whereas you could have done it with Roses and Trade, you did it the KGB way.
 
Old 01-28-2018, 06:05 PM
 
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For what it matters, Trump will not say or do a thing negative to Putin. Trump is compromised by Moscow hotel prostitute video, all orchestrated by Putin. That's why one nation can own another.
 
Old 01-28-2018, 06:11 PM
 
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That's basically because all these nations are in the same camp that promotes the idea that money rule the world.
Russia works as a tool that withstand this idea ( even though they have traitors among them, particularly on governmental level, that LOVE to serve the "golden calf.")
Now that is some propaganda! Trade rules the world. It always has (the modern world) and it always will. The Russians I know here in Florida, even the middle-class, are very happy to live a good life and have food and recreation and no bombs falling and their children not being sent off as cannon fodder.

We are talking about two separate things - things YOU should know about because a lot of these ideas were first brought out of Russian thinking.....or at least Jewish thinking. Bad move - the brain drain you guys had and are continuing with:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow...archy_of_needs

But people need the basics before they can discover the higher planes of life. Once you have "sold your soul" to the KGB or trickery, the hopes of having a sane society are about zero. Everything is a lie and everything is fear.
 
Old 01-28-2018, 06:12 PM
 
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For what it matters, Trump will not say or do a thing negative to Putin. Trump is compromised by Moscow hotel prostitute video, all orchestrated by Putin. That's why one nation can own another.

Trump has sanctions on Russia.......tell me how does Russia own the U.S.? tell me what has Russia got under the Trump administration, name me 1 thing?

Let's pretend Putin has a video of Trump having sex with a prostitute before he became President.JFK was having sex with Soviet spies and caught on tape.....how did that compromise him as President and how he dealt with the Soviet Union?

clueless troll.......
 
Old 01-28-2018, 06:13 PM
 
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For what it matters, Trump will not say or do a thing negative to Putin. Trump is compromised by Moscow hotel prostitute video, all orchestrated by Putin. That's why one nation can own another.
Temporarily. If Mueller indicts next month and the tapes come out (might as well at that point), things change very quickly. But the USA will not forget what Putin did and continues to do.

And, if the USA is screwing things up for you....you shouldn't stand for it either. China and Europe will be glad to trade with you.
 
Old 01-28-2018, 06:17 PM
 
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Trump has sanctions on Russia.......tell me how does Russia own the U.S.? tell me what has Russia got under the Trump administration, name me 1 thing?

Let's pretend Putin has a video of Trump having sex with a prostitute before he became President.JFK was having sex with Soviet spies and caught on tape.....how did that compromise him as President and how he dealt with the Soviet Union?

clueless troll.......
Actually, Trump is dragging his feet on the russian sanctions.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...eadline-373106
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