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Old 02-18-2018, 06:58 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Plenty more to come. Be patient.
Yes. He has discovered election fraud on a massive scale, in his Russian snooping.
Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin? or California, New York, Massachusetts? Who knows????? but Qanon says it is coming soon and they have not been wrong yet.
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Old 02-18-2018, 07:07 AM
 
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Everybody? You sure about that, because the president sure have a hard time accepting that. I mean he really struggles to believe that.
Trump knows that the Russians interfered in our elections by stirring up social conflict. Again, they have been doing that for decades, including all of the other elections during Barack Obama's tenure.

What Trump is apparently not convinced of - and which these indictments do not suggest - is that the Russians specifically interfered in the election voting process, or that anything they did on social media affected the outcome of the election.

Nevertheless, the Democrat left continues to promote the flagrant lie that Donald Trump himself conspired with the Russians to steal the election from Hillary Clinton, and that his presidency is illegitimate as a result. That did not happen and as a result, there is, even after a year and a half, literally zero evidence to back up those claims. The people who continue to perpetuate these lies are lying liars who distinguish themselves by lying constantly without hesitation or remorse.

If some of the people involved in instigating the smear campaign against Trump - specifically the creation, dissemination and financing of the Steele "dossier" - do not end up in prison at the end of all of this, then our system of justice is a farce and should not be trusted by anyone ever again.
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Old 02-18-2018, 07:10 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Well, I guess it didn't work since all of you have been crowing that Clinton won the popular vote.


Just wait....
Everyone is going to be floored by what is about to come to public knowledge.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POrliOIHBIk




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PBBo344CNI




https://www.scribd.com/document/3679...raud-Complaint
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Old 02-18-2018, 07:10 AM
 
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Trump knows that the Russians interfered in our elections by stirring up social conflict. Again, they have been doing that for decades, including all of the other elections during Barack Obama's tenure.
Since I support this social conflict, where can I send money to further support this?
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Old 02-18-2018, 07:14 AM
 
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Since I support this social conflict, where can I send money to further support this?
There are a number of groups you can send it to. Two of the best are BLM or Antifa.
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Old 02-18-2018, 07:16 AM
 
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Just wait....
Everyone is going to be floored by what is about to come to public knowledge.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POrliOIHBIk




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PBBo344CNI




https://www.scribd.com/document/3679...raud-Complaint
Any chance you could just tell us what the punch line is on this so that we can see if it is an intriguing enough proposition to want to wade through the videos and whatnot?

Thanks.
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Old 02-18-2018, 07:20 AM
 
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There are a number of groups you can send it to. Two of the best are BLM or Antifa.
So I win all around here. That rarely happens for me in politics. I've long supported BLM and the investigation shows that Hillary lost not because of the Russians, but because she was worthless.
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Old 02-18-2018, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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No one will ever know eh? How convenient.
That's the reality, maybe we can have another election to prove your point.
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Old 02-18-2018, 07:26 AM
 
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No one will ever know the extent of the impact, I don't think she would have won anyway but that is not the point. The point is that they tried to steer the election to Trump, read through Mueller's indictment if you don't know how.
I thought the point regarding the Mueller investigation was to determine if Trump / Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. It has been well known for months that the Russians were doing the social media stuff and other shenanigans before the election. So we got details and names now that is it. And we know the Trump campaign did not collude with them and were not even aware that Russians were doing what they were doing. It also kills the rumors that the Trump people were trying to collude with the Russians every which way they could.

Its also clear that we let these people into the country and have no idea what they are up to. They lie on the forms and there is no follow up. We need stronger vetting on people coming from hostile nations such as Russia. Especially well connected Russians who likely are intertwined with Putin.

And there was no mention of the emails that went from the DNC to Wikileaks. Was that another group of Russians like the elusive Guccifer 2.0 or are they just ignoring that whole red herring because it might not have been Russia at all?
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Old 02-18-2018, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Trump knows that the Russians interfered in our elections by stirring up social conflict. Again, they have been doing that for decades, including all of the other elections during Barack Obama's tenure.

What Trump is apparently not convinced of - and which these indictments do not suggest - is that the Russians specifically interfered in the election voting process, or that anything they did on social media affected the outcome of the election.

Nevertheless, the Democrat left continues to promote the flagrant lie that Donald Trump himself conspired with the Russians to steal the election from Hillary Clinton, and that his presidency is illegitimate as a result. That did not happen and as a result, there is, even after a year and a half, literally zero evidence to back up those claims. The people who continue to perpetuate these lies are lying liars who distinguish themselves by lying constantly without hesitation or remorse.

If some of the people involved in instigating the smear campaign against Trump - specifically the creation, dissemination and financing of the Steele "dossier" - do not end up in prison at the end of all of this, then our system of justice is a farce and should not be trusted by anyone ever again.
Russia probably did attempt to interfere in previous elections, maybe you have some details?
They really wanted Trump to be president or hated Clinton take your pick, Putin had it in for Clinton ever since her comments in the 2011 Russian election. It will be interesting to see if Trump criticizes the upcoming Russian elections or just praise Putin as a strong and popular leader.


What you are calling a smear campaign is actually an investigation into Russian meddling, Trump made this about him.
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