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Russia probably did attempt to interfere in previous elections, maybe you have some details?
They really wanted Trump to be president or hated Clinton take your pick, Putin had it in for Clinton ever since her comments in the 2011 Russian election. It will be interesting to see if Trump criticizes the upcoming Russian elections or just praise Putin as a strong and popular leader.
What you are calling a smear campaign is actually an investigation into Russian meddling, Trump made this about him.
The Russians really don't give a s__ who is president, as long as they can undermine and weaken us as a nation and as a world power. They almost certainly expected Hillary to win, so creating conflict in that case meant supporting her opponent. Now they continue to oppose us and their influence operations continue, even now that Trump has won. Surely you have seen the reports from our intelligence organizations anticipating the continued attempts to interfere in our elections in 2018 and beyond.
If supporting Trump was the purpose, then how do you explain that? In fact, the Russians were not "supporting" anybody, they were just trying to sow the seeds of conflict and undermine our society as much as they could.
The Russians really don't give a s__ who is president, as long as they can undermine and weaken us as a nation and as a world power. They almost certainly expected Hillary to win, so creating conflict in that case meant supporting her opponent. Now they continue to oppose us and their influence operations continue, even now that Trump has won. Surely you have seen the reports from our intelligence organizations anticipating the continued attempts to interfere in our elections in 2018 and beyond.
If supporting Trump was the purpose, then how do you explain that? In fact, the Russians were not "supporting" anybody, they were just trying to sow the seeds of conflict and undermine our society as much as they could.
Which is the very same thing we do. One can not complain about someone doing something you so gleefully participate in yourself. (You used in the big picture way)
Countries would have less interest in our elections if we were not messing in theirs so often.
If true what exactly would be the point after the election, spending millions of dollars for an outcome that is no longer in question.
The Russians were and are trying to disrupt things here. Think back to the fall of 2016. Access Hollywood, the Trump campaign all over the map on everything. Double digit lead by Clinton.
Russia was trying to stir the pot, make the inevitable Clinton win a little more bumpy. Their goal was never sending Trump to victory, no one expected that to happen but it was to hurt America.
Now for over a year the left has taken the Russian mantle and has made constant turmoil their goal. Exactly what Russia wanted in the first place. They are not anti-Clinton or pro-Trump just anti american.
The Russians were and are trying to disrupt things here. Think back to the fall of 2016. Access Hollywood, the Trump campaign all over the map on everything. Double digit lead by Clinton.
Russia was trying to stir the pot, make the inevitable Clinton win a little more bumpy. Their goal was never sending Trump to victory, no one expected that to happen but it was to hurt America.
Now for over a year the left has taken the Russian mantle and has made constant turmoil their goal. Exactly what Russia wanted in the first place. They are not anti-Clinton or pro-Trump just anti american.
Some of us simply have a different idea of what America should be. America should not be a country responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent men, women and children.
Some of us simply have a different idea of what America should be. America should not be a country responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent men, women and children.
I am also. But constantly protesting against a president just because you are upset he won changes nothing except helps countries like Russia and China
I am anti interventionist. That was a big reason I voted for Johnson. I would have voted for Sanders in the general mostly for that reason. Stein was another option.
Obama won being anti Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and Trump to a lesser degree. Yet we are still intertwined all over the world and still are the worlds police. And not much has changed. Certainly Hillary would have been the same on this. She is way more hawkish than Obama or Trump.
It never will change until we breakaway from the two party grip on the system.
I am also. But constantly protesting against a president just because you are upset he won changes nothing except helps countries like Russia and China
I am anti interventionist. That was a big reason I voted for Johnson. I would have voted for Sanders in the general mostly for that reason. Stein was another option.
Obama won being anti Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and Trump to a lesser degree. Yet we are still intertwined all over the world and still are the worlds police. And not much has changed. Certainly Hillary would have been the same on this. She is way more hawkish than Obama or Trump.
It never will change until we breakaway from the two party grip on the system.
All of these Presidents once sitting in the big chair realize it's much harder to get out than they thought it would be. It isn't until they sit in that chair that they are made aware of all of the consequences both intended and unintended that will/might/could happen with any action they take.
I fully believe every President has gone in with the best of intentions and then reality slaps them right in kisser...
A tweet by some unknown does not equate to facts, this is how the Russians duped voters.
This, exactly.
People keep insisting that there was no influence and again I have to ask, how would they know?
It’s been pretty obvious for several years that people don’t research their sources of information.
Stuff gets re-tweeted and shared on FB and turned into chain emails and/or is used to start threads here, much of it without any basis in fact and easily disproven.
If people are open and receptive to questionable sources, those sources will continue to have influence.
If people continue to not do their due diligence and verify, verify, verify, those sources will continue to have influence.
To argue otherwise is totally naive.
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