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Old 02-20-2018, 09:21 PM
 
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The courts didn’t redraw the districts, did you read the op’s article?

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court drew new boundaries for the state's congressional districts, releasing a map that, if it stands, could play a significant role in Democratic Party efforts to gain control of the House of Representatives in the midterm elections. The map was approved in a 4-3 decision, with four Democratic justices backing it and one Democratic justice siding with two Republicans against it. Most significantly, the new map probably gives Democrats a better shot at winning seats in Philadelphia's heavily populated and moderate suburbs.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...219-story.html
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Redrawing the map of Pennsylvania districts boost Democrats nationally in their quest to take control of the U.S. House, and leaves district boundaries up in the air barely three months before May's primary election.

Of course Democrat Tom Wolf (who wants higher taxes on everyone) wants this.
You were wrong on the governor benefitting from gerrymandering and now you don’t know the difference between state and federal districts, why are you here?
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The Pennsylvania Supreme Court drew new boundaries for the state's congressional districts, releasing a map that, if it stands, could play a significant role in Democratic Party efforts to gain control of the House of Representatives in the midterm elections. The map was approved in a 4-3 decision, with four Democratic justices backing it and one Democratic justice siding with two Republicans against it. Most significantly, the new map probably gives Democrats a better shot at winning seats in Philadelphia's heavily populated and moderate suburbs.

Democrats could get a boost in Pennsylvania after court issues new congressional district map
The university of Stanford professor redrew the districts and it was approved by the court.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:33 PM
 
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The university of Stanford professor redrew the districts and it was approved by the court.
The word "stanford" does not appear in the article you linked to, so what are you talking about?

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As noted elsewhere, this is a Pennsylvania court enforcing the Pennsylvania constitution. It would appear the Pennsylvania courts do have this power.
Where is that in the Constitution? You're just saying they have the power because they did it...which isn't the case. They were never granted that power, they do not HAVE that power, they acted outside their power.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:34 PM
 
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The university of Stanford professor redrew the districts and it was approved by the court.
The map of Pennsylvania's 18 congressional districts is to be in effect for the May 15 primary and substantially overhauls a congressional map widely viewed as among the nation's most gerrymandered. The map was approved in a 4-3 decision, with four Democratic justices backing it and one Democratic justice siding with two Republicans against it.

LA Times
Democrats could get a boost in Pennsylvania after court issues new congressional district map
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I’m talking about gerrymandering not changing the outcome of statewide elections because in-state districts don’t make any difference. What the hell are you talking about?
Completely ignoring the fact that those districts elect the legislature. So in fact how they are configured does make a difference. Which wasn't a bit clear from your post.

Now I grant you that Petch's blathering on about the governor's tax policy is pretty irrelevant to the subject of gerrymandering.
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Old 02-20-2018, 10:01 PM
 
Location: FL
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The Maryland democratic district is also being considered in the supreme court, its just as bad as the republican Gerrymandered districts. I don't care what party is in charge this subverts the democratic process.
Exactly!
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Old 02-20-2018, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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How can the courts draw districts when that isn't their job?

They obviously usurped a power they don't have, for partisan purposes.

The Legislature has the sole authority to make laws and to draw districts. Courts have no such power.
Depends on the state. In most states, drawing up the districts is a legislative function. But in some, it's a commission.

Furthermore, when the legislature can't agree, states frequently designate a final arbiter. In Pennsylvania the Supreme Court does have the final say. In some states, it's the Secretary of State. In some states, it's an appointed bipartisan commission.

Just because something is true in your state doesn't mean it's true in all states. Read this and learn something - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redistricting
http://fox2now.com/2016/06/15/a-look...n-every-state/
https://townhall.com/news/politics-e...state-n2179116
https://ballotpedia.org/State_Legisl...he_2010_Census

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Old 02-21-2018, 12:11 AM
 
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Okay, great deflection from the point in question, keep claiming democrats want to increase taxes like rain man. Great technique!
Once Democrats secure power they will do what they have always done – raise taxes, more illegals, and lash out to blame Republicans when the economy goes south again…. and laugh.
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Old 02-21-2018, 12:31 AM
 
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I live in PA and the main opponent to the new map is Republican Mike Turzai.

To give you an idea of how crazy Turzai is: Mike Turzai on wrong side more than once - The Morning Call February, 2016



"It was the most bizarre meeting I've ever been to in my life."

That's the version of the meeting from Deena Kenney, one of the parents who formed the group Campaign for Compassion to seek the legalization of medical marijuana to treat their children. She told me when they finally got a private meeting with House Speaker Mike Turzai, R-Allegheny, it quickly became apparent that he wasn't interested in what they had to say.

"He attacked us on pretty much everything we said," she said. "He went right in and started screaming at us. He was very emotional."

She said, "At one point he insulted one mother so bad, she stood up, called him a jerk and walked out on him."

I asked Turzai Tuesday for his side of this story. All he would say was that any discussion was about the facts of the bill, "and it was always right on point."

Turzai has become the face of House opposition to legalizing medical marijuana. According to sources and published reports, he cried while explaining his opposition to the medical marijuana bill during a closed GOP House Caucus meeting last November and then left the room.
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