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Old 03-17-2018, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I just saw this kid being interviewed on Fox News and the reporter asked him why didn't he comply when he was told that he needed to go to a supervised location and couldn't stay in the class room. He didn't answer.
Then he went on a political rant comparing this to a hypothetical school sanctioned abortion rally in which he wouldn't have participated either.
He chose his punishment.
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I just saw this kid being interviewed on Fox News and the reporter asked him why didn't he comply when he was told that he needed to go to a supervised location and couldn't stay in the class room. He didn't answer.
Then he went on a political rant comparing this to a hypothetical school sanctioned abortion rally in which he wouldn't have participated either.
He chose his punishment.
He chose not to be a political pawn and a victim of the non-aggression principle.
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:44 AM
 
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From your link (see below), my impression is that the fault is with teachers who refused to stay at their posts and do their jobs. The student went to school to learn, teachers were hired to teach. Teachers who walk off the job are abandoning their responsibilities, and punishing the student for doing what is expected of students is bizarre.

"School district spokesperson Stacie Raterman said official policy prohibited school officials from leaving Shoemaker unattended in the building for “security reasons,” 10TV reported."
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Old 03-17-2018, 11:06 AM
 
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He had the option of alternative study hall, where he should have gone if he chose not to participate in the walkout.
If this was at a public school, then no school condoned politics should be on par with no prayer.

This walkout interfered with this students right to a free education.
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Old 03-17-2018, 11:07 AM
 
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I just saw this kid being interviewed on Fox News and the reporter asked him why didn't he comply when he was told that he needed to go to a supervised location and couldn't stay in the class room. He didn't answer.
Then he went on a political rant comparing this to a hypothetical school sanctioned abortion rally in which he wouldn't have participated either.
He chose his punishment.
No, the school chose it when they decided to deprive him of an educational day to enable a partisan political event.
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Old 03-17-2018, 11:16 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The kid insisted on staying in an empty classroom against the instructions of the school staff. The kid had an option of not going to the protest and not being suspended. The kid chose otherwise.
No, the option was to protest either by walking out or going to a designated area (study hall). Either way would have been participation. He chose neither.
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Old 03-17-2018, 11:21 AM
 
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No, the option was to protest either by walking out or going to a designated area (study hall). Either way would have been participation. He chose neither.
I don't think it's so black and white. Teachers walked off the job because of their personal beliefs about guns. That is the problem. Their first priority to is teach, and if they are unwilling or unable to do that job, they have a responsibility to ensure that a substitute teacher assumes all of their responsibilities. It is not the responsibility of the student to leave the classroom due to the teacher's decision to walk out of the classroom.
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Old 03-17-2018, 11:26 AM
 
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I don't think it's so black and white. Teachers walked off the job because of their personal beliefs about guns. That is the problem.
It was sponsored by the school so they did not walk off the job.
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Old 03-17-2018, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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It was sponsored by the school so they did not walk off the job.
Which is a travesty in an of itself, and not only due to the abuse of taxpayer dollars, but for the use of supposedly APOLITICAL institutions to promote a Partisan Political agenda.
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Old 03-17-2018, 11:40 AM
 
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It was sponsored by the school so they did not walk off the job.
The school admin and teachers can hold whatever beliefs, and take whatever actions, they choose, but their first responsibility is to teach. They were being paid to do a specific job, they were not doing that job, and therein lies the problem.

Protesting gun law is unrelated to teaching, and therefore a decision to walk off the job for personal beliefs means that they must hire someone else to fill their roles. They did not fulfill their responsibilities to the students, parents, and community, and they are at fault.
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