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Old 04-13-2018, 07:34 AM
 
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He may not be a great lawyer himself, but surely even he was/is smart enough to have found himself a good one who has undoubtedly told him to keep his mouth shut, as any lawyer worth his hourly rate would.

I don’t expect we’ll hear anything from Mr. Cohen until/unless he gets a deal.
I think Cohen likely has made many enemies among his "peers"
Of course IMO, if you were an attorney who needed an attorney to handle your own investigation by the FBI wouldn't you want someone who was a SUPERIOR quality attorney--vs just your equal???

FWIW--and I have said this before--
The reason Jared K has as much cred as he has in a questionable Trump world is that he chose an attorney people respect for ethics and professional quality--Abbe Lowell
It is a cloak of respectability that Kushner has wrapped around his own ethically challenged behavior to make it appear he is "trying" to do the right thing...
And it worked for long time--he is not under indictment or in jail so far...

 
Old 04-13-2018, 07:42 AM
 
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Should a Special Prosecutor be engaged to take dead aim at an elected President, because some people didn't like the result of the election?
Republicans didn't like the result of the election? They're the ones running this investigation.

The Special Prosecutor took aim at a well-known criminal who was suspected of what is tantamount to treason. No ****, he was going to find a bunch of dirt along the way.

There's no reason anyone should be surprised by this.
 
Old 04-13-2018, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Cohen expected in federal court within the hour according to the news.
 
Old 04-13-2018, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Should a Special Prosecutor be engaged to take dead aim at an elected President, because some people didn't like the result of the election?
No. It's a good thing that's not what happened, huh...?
 
Old 04-13-2018, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Pretty good recap of what we know so far.

Donald Trump has never been in more trouble than right now - Chicago Tribune
 
Old 04-13-2018, 08:26 AM
 
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Cohen expected in federal court within the hour according to the news.
To ask for a Chinese wall???
There is already one there
Does Cohen think the judge is going to allow him to choose a someone to run oversight???

Would love to be there and hear his posturings
Where is Court TV when you need it????
 
Old 04-13-2018, 08:28 AM
 
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Should a Special Prosecutor be engaged to take dead aim at an elected President, because some people didn't like the result of the election?
If there is specific reason to believe that election was influenced by a foreign power then yes
Because you know what
That same foreign power is coming back in any future election

But so far Trump really hasn't shown any interest in trying to prevent that
Wonder why???
 
Old 04-13-2018, 08:29 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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To ask for a Chinese wall???
There is already one there
Does Cohen think the judge is going to allow him to choose a someone to run oversight???

Would love to be there and hear his posturings
Where is Court TV when you need it????
I'm lost here. What do you mean by "asking for a Chinese wall" in the context of Cohen appearing in court soon?
 
Old 04-13-2018, 08:58 AM
 
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Just my take--and I am not an attorney so if I get anything wrong which is likely I am sure a real attorney can correct my version---

A Chinese wall is a term used when say people in the same law firm are on opposing sides of the same case--
One for the plaintive and one for the defendant and there is information that needs to be kept strictly separate and private--
It is rare but it happens
Or when attorneys at same law firm are arguing for same side of a case but have separate defendants---so one side might have information prejudicial to the other defendant--they don't have to let that side KNOW they have that info before they go to trial because they are not the prosecution...and you need special effort to make sure there is no trading of info either deliberately or carelessly that would in effect Pierce the attorney client priviledge of privacy...

Michael Cohen is trying to argue I think that when the FBI executed the search warrants on his house/offices the FBI could have gained information that is prejudicial to his case about the Stormy Daniels matter---either the 2016 NDA/settlement agreement, her case of defamation against Cohen, or even the original situatuion where she tried to sell her story and it was shut down by Cohen or maybe even the Las Vegas threat situatuion---

Cohen will request that information should be withheld from the FBI's investigation because of attorney client priviledge---since I guess at this point--there is only the suspicion of wrong-doing that pierces the attorney-client bond since Cohen hasn't even been charged with any illegal acts and certainly hasn't been found guilty in court of anything...

The problem is that the FBI knows all that
They have taint teams w/every strike team to take the info and sift through it and separate out anything that is not related to specific language of the warrants
There is a special master probably to oversee and answer any "is this or is this not" queries
But there WAS enough probable cause to ISSUE the warrants in the first place
So if there is probable cause there is wrongdoing on Cohen's part there is right to pursue evidence to sustain that cause in bringing charges...
 
Old 04-13-2018, 09:08 AM
 
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"Making this more problematic, Trump isn't someone who played close to the line a time or two, or once did a shady deal. He may well be the single most corrupt major business figure in the United States of America. He ran scams like Trump University to con struggling people out of their money. He lent his name to pyramid schemes. He bankrupted casinos and still somehow made millions while others were left holding the bag. He refused to pay vendors. He exploited foreign workers. He used illegal labor. He discriminated against African-American renters. He violated antitrust laws. He did business with the mob and with Eastern European kleptocrats. His properties became the go-to vehicle for Russian oligarchs and mobsters to launder their money."

Yet he was the best person in the country for the job of president, according to the minority that voted for him. America, you're in deep kaka now, but maybe the orangeman's history of misdeeds has finally caught up to him. Do we dare to hope now that change may be on the horizon, even though Mike Pence would be the next seat holder? I can almost hear the church bells ringing now.
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