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Old 08-01-2018, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Originally Posted by ktoni View Post
Jury nullification. Not a chance in hell that I would convict someone for taking down a flag that symbolizes treason and white supremacy. I believe it should be a crime to display the Confederate flag, it is blatant disorderly conduct as far as I am concerned.
To Native Americans the U.S. flag symbolizes treason and white supremacy, and many believe it should be a crime to display it as far as they are concerned.
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:32 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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The man trespassed and stole it.

His only defense would be he's cognitively impaired and believes that flags and flagpoles occur in nature outside of man.

That's not the case.
Stole what?
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Brooks said she believed there was an American flag flying on the pole as recently as Thursday.
There may have been a flag there, maybe not. Brooks saying she believed there was, means she doesn't really know. All they know for sure is a rebel flag showed up. Funny how the rebel flag gets attention over a u.s. flag. Be that as it may, point being ... it was just a pole, possibly a bare pole.

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Mayor Christopher Vergano did not return a call.
Detective Lt. Christian Wittig said he had not heard about the flag. He said he was curious to see it, but that there was little police could do to take it down, especially because no complaint or report of trespassing was filed.
Now one could say the flag pole was accosted by someone putting an evil rebel flag on it, but I don't really think the pole cares as it does not have feelings. It just is.
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:41 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Nobody knows who owns the flag, who put it up, who owns the pole or the property that it's on... exactly who are you tolerating?

It's just a flag, why do you people let others affect your emotional well-being? Why are you openly weak enough that you resort to breaking the law to make yourself feel better?
Flags have meaning. If they didn't, no one would have a flag of any sort.

And, apparently, the confederate lover broke the law by taking down the American flag that WAS there and putting up that shameful disgrace of cloth.

The ex-Marine in New Jersey was just righting a wrong.
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:42 PM
 
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Why are you letting other people and their actions control your emotions/feelings? Let it go man, at some point you've got to stop being weak and be a man.
Used to be that punching Nazis in their stupid mouth was considered manly. Ah well...
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:48 PM
 
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The U.S. flag is the standard of a band of traitors who attacked England and tried to destroy the British Crown. Displaying it has no more place of honor amongst anyone than would flying a swastika.
Very good point.
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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The U.S. flag is the standard of a band of traitors who attacked England and tried to destroy the British Crown. Displaying it has no more place of honor amongst anyone than would flying a swastika.
You need to re-read your history. The band of traitors attacked colonial occupiers in a colony of England. It was against current, colonial law. However, the traitors did not try to destroy the British Crown. They didn't care about England, nor other colonies. They just wanted to cause enough trouble to make it not worth the Crown's time, effort, and resources to continue occupying the little part of North American in which they had colonized. They succeeded. Was it illegal? Yes. Was England wrong in abusing their colonists? Yes. Who was "more" wrong?
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:56 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The U.S. flag is the standard of a band of traitors who attacked England and tried to destroy the British Crown.
When did the colonies attack England?

I doubt they had the resources to sail across the Atlantic and invade England.
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Old 08-01-2018, 02:10 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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They been flying that flag for hundred year and then in the pass two years peoe that never had anything to do with what they claim act like somebody kick their sister and they going die if it not taking down. It's like the political correct police gave a group ultimate protection to complain about something that upset them
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You should probably read up on the resurgence of that particular participation prize symbol. Hint: It remarkably came back in fashion during the civil rights struggle. You can probably guess among who.
Careless readers of political history and their lives are long.

No where in the u.s. Constitution does is state, that the States did not have the right to succeed. No where does it state in the u.s. Constitution that the States were to consolidate into one body. (Jefferson Davis,"The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government")

Just as St. Andrew (the symbolism of the flag; later adopted by Scotland to represent their nation) stood independent of the Church to preach that which was in his heart to say, the Confederates fought to have the u.s. Constitution applied as it was written. St. Andrews cross showed up on a battle flag, on the battle field of the Confederates. Both battles for independence were lost. The former was crucified, the later were massacred on the field of battle.

However, the battle flag showed up once again in the hands that were on the wrong side of the civil rights movement. Where the fight to stand independent yet equal under the law, was being fought on the streets and in the courts. The symbol known to stand for individual rights and freedoms was tainted by, careless readers of political history.

Just as the battle flag showed up on the wrong side of the fight for civil rights, the swastika (Hindu symbol meaning well-being) landed on the wrong side of German history.

When people stop paying homage to symbolism, this too shall pass.

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Old 08-01-2018, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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You need to re-read your history. The band of traitors attacked colonial occupiers in a colony of England. It was against current, colonial law. However, the traitors did not try to destroy the British Crown. They didn't care about England, nor other colonies. They just wanted to cause enough trouble to make it not worth the Crown's time, effort, and resources to continue occupying the little part of North American in which they had colonized. They succeeded. Was it illegal? Yes. Was England wrong in abusing their colonists? Yes. Who was "more" wrong?
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When did the colonies attack England?

I doubt they had the resources to sail across the Atlantic and invade England.
I'm aware of that. They didn't actually attack London. It was more of a shi*post in reaction to the one I quoted.

What they did do, however, is virtually identical to what the Confederacy did--secede.
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Old 08-01-2018, 02:22 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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You need to re-read your history. The band of traitors attacked colonial occupiers in a colony of England. It was against current, colonial law. However, the traitors did not try to destroy the British Crown. They didn't care about England, nor other colonies. They just wanted to cause enough trouble to make it not worth the Crown's time, effort, and resources to continue occupying the little part of North American in which they had colonized. They succeeded. Was it illegal? Yes. Was England wrong in abusing their colonists? Yes. Who was "more" wrong?
Ones fight for sovereignty never ends well and is never deemed legal by a government.

The law is in the legal business, not the right and wrong business ...
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