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Yeah strange choice. He is more about Conservative Agenda in Legal fields rather then Immigration. Plus his surname suggests that his grandparents have immigrated here from Sicily. And he wishes to end Birthright Citizenship !!
It will take him years to even understand what is H-1B visa !!
As per wikipedia Characterized as an immigration hard-liner, Cuccinelli sought to prohibit undocumented immigrants from attending universities, repeal birthright citizenship, and force employees to speak English in the workplace.
Will he post staff at every workplace with a whip enforcing language ?? What rubbish !!
If any of that is true, I wish him luck and I hope he's successful.
Hardliner approach will not reform Immigration system of USA. Their agenda will get lost in the Congress and Supreme Court.
Any reform in H-1B visa process will get lost over "Dreamers" and "Birthright Citizenship". At the end, nothing will be achieved.
Hardliner approach will not reform Immigration system of USA. Their agenda will get lost in the Congress and Supreme Court.
Any reform in H-1B visa process will get lost over "Dreamers" and "Birthright Citizenship". At the end, nothing will be achieved.
Immigrant groups have been using that threat for decades. I'm not intimidated by that.
Illegal immigrants are basically slaves. "Dreamers" are pawns. White collar H1B immigrants are a labor arbitrage tool. Nothing more. You are not here to achieve the American dream for yourself; you were brought here to keep wages low and increase profits for your corporate masters.
Lobbyists don't really want any of these groups to become Americans unless the people bankrolling them want them to vote.
Americans in IT definitely don't want more H1Bs.
While we're on the subject, what makes you think that the H1B debate has anything to do with birthright citizenship...or dreamers for that matter?
Immigrant groups have been using that threat for decades. I'm not intimidated by that.
Illegal immigrants are basically slaves. "Dreamers" are pawns. White collar H1B immigrants are a labor arbitrage tool. Nothing more. You are not here to achieve the American dream for yourself; you were brought here to keep wages low and increase profits for your corporate masters.
Lobbyists don't really want any of these groups to become Americans unless the people bankrolling them want them to vote.
Americans in IT definitely don't want more H1Bs.
While we're on the subject, what makes you think that the H1B debate has anything to do with birthright citizenship...or dreamers for that matter?
I agree with your point but they always try to club many different things together. Green Card Lottery is discussed together with "Dreamers" while they are different policy matters.
Whenever they wish to introduce any new immigration policy such as work permit for H4 visa or Green card for Kerala Nurses, they do it separately without discussing entire immigration system.
But if they wish to reform H-1B visa policy, they start discussing H-1B with Dreamers, Birthright, GC Lottery and at the end - nothing is achieved. It is their desire to have no reforms in H-1B program.
I agree with your point but they always try to club many different things together. Green Card Lottery is discussed together with "Dreamers" while they are different policy matters.
Whenever they wish to introduce any new immigration policy such as work permit for H4 visa or Green card for Kerala Nurses, they do it separately without discussing entire immigration system.
But if they wish to reform H-1B visa policy, they start discussing H-1B with Dreamers, Birthright, GC Lottery and at the end - nothing is achieved. It is their desire to have no reforms in H-1B program.
Lobbyists want the status-quo it seems.
This is true. The immigration lobbyists get their paychecks from the current mess, thus best to confound the H-1B visa, which most Americans oppose, with so many other messy and insolvable topics so nothing gets done.
Immigrant groups have been using that threat for decades. I'm not intimidated by that.
Illegal immigrants are basically slaves. "Dreamers" are pawns. White collar H1B immigrants are a labor arbitrage tool. Nothing more. You are not here to achieve the American dream for yourself; you were brought here to keep wages low and increase profits for your corporate masters.
Lobbyists don't really want any of these groups to become Americans unless the people bankrolling them want them to vote.
Americans in IT definitely don't want more H1Bs.
While we're on the subject, what makes you think that the H1B debate has anything to do with birthright citizenship...or dreamers for that matter?
This is what peeves me so much about the immigration topic too, the mainstream media likes to paint it as a "left-right" issue all the time with the "good liberals" opening their arms to the world, and opponents of mass immigration and the H-1B being racist. But this is hogwash. The immigration debate was never "left-right", instead it's the 90% masses of the people on both Left and Right losing out from mass immigration (along with the immigrants themselves, exploited for cheap labor) while only a small elite benefits. Little surprise the media does this since it's not "liberal" media as much as it's corporate media that serves the interests of its corporate maters. Like you say, mass immigration isn't "liberal" or "progressive" in any way but in many ways the opposite, instead it pushes down wages and jobs for Americans while brutally exploiting immigrants as indentured servants. The H-1B just being one example, though one of the most notorious. That's why supposedly "conservative" corporations love mass immigration as much as limousine liberals do, it's not left-right so much as elites vs. the interests of 90 percent of the population, of all political persuasions. Liberals in general have as much of a reason to oppose mass immigration like traditional conservatives do, since heavy immigration hurts the environment and brings down wages for the middle class and working class (and for the H-1B, even the upper and professional classes). So "liberals" who support the H-1B and mass immigration aren't even truly liberals, they're sell-outs who've allied themselves with ultra-libertarian business conservatives like the Koch Brothers, Commerce Chambers and Sheldon Adelson, who only care about lowering wages and increasing profits while damaging the communities around them in the process.
This is what peeves me so much about the immigration topic too, the mainstream media likes to paint it as a "left-right" issue all the time with the "good liberals" opening their arms to the world, and opponents of mass immigration and the H-1B being racist. But this is hogwash. The immigration debate was never "left-right", instead it's the 90% masses of the people on both Left and Right losing out from mass immigration (along with the immigrants themselves, exploited for cheap labor) while only a small elite benefits. Little surprise the media does this since it's not "liberal" media as much as it's corporate media that serves the interests of its corporate maters. Like you say, mass immigration isn't "liberal" or "progressive" in any way but in many ways the opposite, instead it pushes down wages and jobs for Americans while brutally exploiting immigrants as indentured servants. The H-1B just being one example, though one of the most notorious. That's why supposedly "conservative" corporations love mass immigration as much as limousine liberals do, it's not left-right so much as elites vs. the interests of 90 percent of the population, of all political persuasions. Liberals in general have as much of a reason to oppose mass immigration like traditional conservatives do, since heavy immigration hurts the environment and brings down wages for the middle class and working class (and for the H-1B, even the upper and professional classes). So "liberals" who support the H-1B and mass immigration aren't even truly liberals, they're sell-outs who've allied themselves with ultra-libertarian business conservatives like the Koch Brothers, Commerce Chambers and Sheldon Adelson, who only care about lowering wages and increasing profits while damaging the communities around them in the process.
The above post is a good mixture of pessimism,fear,uncertainty,doubt,racism and guilt due to racism.
Immigration lead to power center in United states due to the best and brightest coming in from all over the world in search of opportunities.
Immigrants are usually risk takers whether they originate from United States or from any other country.
United states is founded by different immigrant groups....no wonder it became a successful nation.
The core of United States is immigration. It isn't doing any service to other nations by inviting immigrants.
In fact, other nations are severely impacted due to brain drain.
But on the brighter side, due to the best and brightest coming together, human race as a whole advanced far more quickly
The only way that United states can help itself is by inviting immigrants.
It also leads to creation of wealth.
The inherent racist in every human tends to associate all the not so positives on the outsiders.
The outsiders here are immigrants.
Once you gain control over yourself over that guy, the picture would be more clear.
Until then, any number of logical explanations would fall short.
This is what peeves me so much about the immigration topic too, the mainstream media likes to paint it as a "left-right" issue all the time with the "good liberals" opening their arms to the world, and opponents of mass immigration and the H-1B being racist. But this is hogwash. The immigration debate was never "left-right", instead it's the 90% masses of the people on both Left and Right losing out from mass immigration (along with the immigrants themselves, exploited for cheap labor) while only a small elite benefits. Little surprise the media does this since it's not "liberal" media as much as it's corporate media that serves the interests of its corporate maters. Like you say, mass immigration isn't "liberal" or "progressive" in any way but in many ways the opposite, instead it pushes down wages and jobs for Americans while brutally exploiting immigrants as indentured servants. The H-1B just being one example, though one of the most notorious. That's why supposedly "conservative" corporations love mass immigration as much as limousine liberals do, it's not left-right so much as elites vs. the interests of 90 percent of the population, of all political persuasions. Liberals in general have as much of a reason to oppose mass immigration like traditional conservatives do, since heavy immigration hurts the environment and brings down wages for the middle class and working class (and for the H-1B, even the upper and professional classes). So "liberals" who support the H-1B and mass immigration aren't even truly liberals, they're sell-outs who've allied themselves with ultra-libertarian business conservatives like the Koch Brothers, Commerce Chambers and Sheldon Adelson, who only care about lowering wages and increasing profits while damaging the communities around them in the process.
Exactly. VERY well said.
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Originally Posted by crazyforger
The above post is a good mixture of pessimism,fear,uncertainty,doubt,racism and guilt due to racism.
Immigration lead to power center in United states due to the best and brightest coming in from all over the world in search of opportunities.
Immigrants are usually risk takers whether they originate from United States or from any other country.
United states is founded by different immigrant groups....no wonder it became a successful nation.
The core of United States is immigration. It isn't doing any service to other nations by inviting immigrants.
In fact, other nations are severely impacted due to brain drain.
But on the brighter side, due to the best and brightest coming together, human race as a whole advanced far more quickly
The only way that United states can help itself is by inviting immigrants.
It also leads to creation of wealth.
The inherent racist in every human tends to associate all the not so positives on the outsiders.
The outsiders here are immigrants.
Once you gain control over yourself over that guy, the picture would be more clear.
Until then, any number of logical explanations would fall short.
"Best and brightest," huh? Sure. You guys are so awesome at what you do that your deployments fail almost 100% of the time. Your code almost always fails review and fails to conform to even the most basic standards. You can't take instruction and you cannot accept criticism in a mature, professional way. If this is the "best and brightest", y'all have some serious problems. H1Bs are far too easy to get.
As for racism...that's an old tired argument. I have south Asian friends who have invited me to their homes and I've been a guest in theirs. They're as sick of your "best and brightest" as I am. And they know that the "skills gap" argument is complete garbage. They want 90% of these H1Bs gone just as much as I do.
"Best and brightest," huh? Sure. You guys are so awesome at what you do that your deployments fail almost 100% of the time. Your code almost always fails review and fails to conform to even the most basic standards. You can't take instruction and you cannot accept criticism in a mature, professional way. If this is the "best and brightest", y'all have some serious problems. H1Bs are far too easy to get.
As for racism...that's an old tired argument. I have south Asian friends who have invited me to their homes and I've been a guest in theirs. They're as sick of your "best and brightest" as I am. And they know that the "skills gap" argument is complete garbage. They want 90% of these H1Bs gone just as much as I do.
Correction...doesn't have to be Best and Brightest.
Still the argument holds true.
Correction...doesn't have to be Best and Brightest.
Still the argument holds true.
No, it doesn't. If they're not the "best and brightest," what are they doing here?
They are clearly...provably, in fact...incompetent. If you claim that they're here for any reason other than labor market arbitrage, then you're lying.
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