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Old 06-10-2019, 12:04 PM
 
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I agree 100%. The ones who've been here a while and have their GC or even their US citizenship are almost as threatened by H1Bs as Americans are; the only thing they have going for them is a name like "Gupta" or "Singh" on their resumes.


Meanwhile, the FOBs strut around like they hit the lottery and immediately start making demands of their host country. A country they could be forced to leave at any moment. They start treating Americans like trash. I guess they forget that we built this country and the companies putting food on THEIR table. Ugh.


They all need to leave.
For someone to associate themselves with the people who built this nation, they should believe in the same values.
Only then they have the right to say 'we'.

Many immigrants on H1B fit this requirement more than some of the so called 'citizens' on United States.

Pretty sure people with this attitude would have sided with the British during the fight for independence.
And now here we are with the same kind taking credit after United States has been formed.

Last edited by crazyforger; 06-10-2019 at 12:18 PM..

 
Old 06-10-2019, 12:08 PM
 
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Exactly!

Why are these people so eager to cut and run when it comes to their own country? Besides, if they are such geniuses as the claim to be, then why aren't they back in India building up their own IT businesses?

Their sense of entitlement is astounding. They think we owe them jobs. We owe them nothing.

Once again, I remind them all---especially the ones who are seething because they haven't gotten a green card---Be careful! You just might get what you wish for! Once that green card comes, you, too, can easily get replaced by an H1-B.

This just a self interest post that goes against United States values.
If you don't believe in the values of United States and not interested in the well being of the nation, you are free to leave
 
Old 06-10-2019, 12:44 PM
 
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They have six years experience by then. They can work for anyone they want and their wages have presumably risen to a competitive wage for a senior technical employee by then.

The reality is that the outsourcing feeds into greater offshoring since the technical and management skills for US business is being imparted to employees who can form effective project teams in India to work on American contracts.

L-1 is actually the bigger problem since employers don't have to solicit applications from domestic workers and pay a competitive market wage.

https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/wh...1-visas-60252/
They can't work for anyone they want as long as they are here as an H1-B.

There is a very long wait for a green card. It's not like when their 6 years is up, a green card is waiting for them.
 
Old 06-10-2019, 12:47 PM
 
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I agree 100%. The ones who've been here a while and have their GC or even their US citizenship are almost as threatened by H1Bs as Americans are; the only thing they have going for them is a name like "Gupta" or "Singh" on their resumes.

This^^^^is true, sad to say. Once Indians get a green card and are in a position to hire, they blatantly discriminate against non-Indians.

ETA: At least some lawsuits are in the works regarding discrimination against non-Indians. Here's one example:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/65942416.cms

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Old 06-10-2019, 12:48 PM
 
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Four spouses of Indian H-1B visa holders have sued the US Government over undue delays in their H-4 extension and work authorization renewal. They’ve claimed that the USCIS intentionally delayed the renewal process, putting the petitioners at a risk of losing jobs, insurance and even their driver’s licences.

https://trak.in/tags/business/2019/0...layed-h4-visa/
 
Old 06-10-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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This^^^^is true, sad to say. Once Indians get a green card and are in a position to hire, they blatantly discriminate against non-Indians.
It is not about Indian or non-indian. I think that it is more about profit and cheap labour. That Indian who gets a Green Card and is in a position to hire gained entry in the Unted States as a cheap labour only. He will practice the same policy forward in order to survive.
If an Indian Curry House require a worker who is expert in running Tandoor for Roti, Naan, Kebab- he will look for some illegal undocumented Hispanic worker who can be paid less then minimum wage or some Asylum Seeker from Indian subcontinent. He will ignore any job application from White American, African American, Indian American, Asian American, Hispanic American, Green Card Holder because he will need to pay proper wages to all these people. He cannot bring any worker from India for such work on legal visa.
 
Old 06-10-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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It is not about Indian or non-indian. I think that it is more about profit and cheap labour. That Indian who gets a Green Card and is in a position to hire gained entry in the Unted States as a cheap labour only. He will practice the same policy forward in order to survive.
If an Indian Curry House require a worker who is expert in running Tandoor for Roti, Naan, Kebab- he will look for some illegal undocumented Hispanic worker who can be paid less then minimum wage or some Asylum Seeker from Indian subcontinent. He will ignore any job application from White American, African American, Indian American, Asian American, Hispanic American, Green Card Holder because he will need to pay proper wages to all these people. He cannot bring any worker from India for such work on legal visa.
Oh, Puleez!

They most certainly do blatantly discriminate against non-Indians. To say otherwise is a lie. As Judge Judy says "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's rain."

Some years back, an American IT worker was sending out resumes all over the place in search of a job. He got no responses. Then he tried an experiment. He kept his resume the same except for giving himself an Indian name and instead of saying he served in the US Army, he changed it to say the Indian army. Suddenly, he was getting a lot of interest from those in a position to hire.

When my husband was looking for work, he got lots of calls from Indian recruiters. They would string him along pretending to be interested in hiring him, then abruptly stop calling. We all know what that was about. Don't pretend otherwise.

As for sleazy restaurant owners---you are comparing apples to oranges. No matter what type of restaurant a sleazy owner runs, they will want cheap, exploitable, illegal labor. Most of the chain restaurants will use E-verify.
 
Old 06-10-2019, 01:11 PM
 
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I work with many H-1B visas and the screening process has been getting more difficult. One promise though was to force employers to pay them a fair wage and that has not changed. Trump - thus far - has actually done more to lower the number of H-1B visas than his predecessors. It's a good thing we don't have Ted Cruz/Carly Fiorina in office. At one point he wanted to increase the limit on H-1B visas by 500% (then changed his tune for the presidential campaign trail). And Fiorina "The Queen of Outsourcing" sent over 100,000 American jobs to Asia as she nearly destroyed a once-great company HP.
 
Old 06-10-2019, 01:13 PM
 
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Four spouses of Indian H-1B visa holders have sued the US Government over undue delays in their H-4 extension and work authorization renewal. They’ve claimed that the USCIS intentionally delayed the renewal process, putting the petitioners at a risk of losing jobs, insurance and even their driver’s licences.

https://trak.in/tags/business/2019/0...layed-h4-visa/
H-4s should never have been allowed to work. You can thank Obama for that one. Never mind that we have many Americans who would have wanted those jobs. I have no sympathy for H-4s.
 
Old 06-10-2019, 02:33 PM
 
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H-4s should never have been allowed to work. You can thank Obama for that one. Never mind that we have many Americans who would have wanted those jobs. I have no sympathy for H-4s.
Capable people sitting at home would never benefit the nation.
Remember that spouses of H1s from other countries have got their green cards long time back.

But since it isn't in the news, it doesn't catch the eye.

Doing analysis based on Hype news always leads to illogical conclusions

People who can compete are doing pretty good.
Its those who can't are the ones that cry a lot.
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