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I meant there is no reason for him to support it , because its a threat to him and his family.
He's an American citizen already so the H-4 cancellation doesn't threaten him or his wife at all. OTOH the mass import of cheap labor on the H-1B and H-4 does threaten him and his family by pushing wages down for him and other American tech workers, and leading to more and more loss of jobs. The great irony is as an Indian-American who is now officially an American citizen, he faces more discrimination in STEM fields than foreign workers do because he has certain rights that Indians imported as exploitable slave labor on the H-1B and H-4 don't have, he can freely switch jobs, ask for a better salary at the level of his skills and can sue if he is mistreated or pushed to work overtime without pay.
In other words, he'll.never be an indentured servant and must be treated with the full rights of American citizens and workers that previous workers fought generations for. And there are too many tech and other companies that don't this, including some major Silicon Valley tech companies and even companies like Disney. They don't want workers and citizens with self-respect, they want slaves who will agree to take half the wages of Americans with the same skills and work 100-hour weeks and overtime with no pay, won't speak up, won't ask for a raise and won't change jobs when they see a better offer. And that's a problem because that's what the H-1B visa is, an indentured servant visa to undermine basic fair wages and worker protections for Americans (including naturalized Indian-American citizens) who've trained for decades to develop their skills and earn American incomes.
He's an American citizen already so the H-4 cancellation doesn't threaten him or his wife at all. OTOH the mass import of cheap labor on the H-1B and H-4 does threaten him and his family by pushing wages down for him and other American tech workers, and leading to more and more loss of jobs. The great irony is as an Indian-American who is now officially an American citizen, he faces more discrimination in STEM fields than foreign workers do because he has certain rights that Indians imported as exploitable slave labor on the H-1B and H-4 don't have, he can freely switch jobs, ask for a better salary at the level of his skills and can sue if he is mistreated or pushed to work overtime without pay.
In other words, he'll.never be an indentured servant and must be treated with the full rights of American citizens and workers that previous workers fought generations for. And there are too many tech and other companies that don't this, including some major Silicon Valley tech companies and even companies like Disney. They don't want workers and citizens with self-respect, they want slaves who will agree to take half the wages of Americans with the same skills and work 100-hour weeks and overtime with no pay, won't speak up, won't ask for a raise and won't change jobs when they see a better offer. And that's a problem because that's what the H-1B visa is, an indentured servant visa to undermine basic fair wages and worker protections for Americans (including naturalized Indian-American citizens) who've trained for decades to develop their skills and earn American incomes.
So in short, the problem is with the rules that don't provide Green Cards to immigrants.
Not with the program itself.
They're not "immigrants". They are "guest workers" --- and no one owes them a green card---like it or not.
You are right. However you dont owe them anything, but you cannot stop the corporations from owing them greencards. Green cards are sponsored by companies, USCIS merely adjudicates them. Trump/Kushner is proposing some canada style "points system" nonsense and trying to make it "socialistic"/govt controlled .
Why dont you raise your voice against corporations instead of shooting easy targets? Disney earns its money from AMericans yet has the audacity to fire Americans and outsource. They will do what is profitable for them, however.
You are right. However you dont owe them anything, but you cannot stop the corporations from owing them greencards. Green cards are sponsored by companies, USCIS merely adjudicates them. Trump/Kushner is proposing some canada style "points system" nonsense and trying to make it "socialistic"/govt controlled .
Why dont you raise your voice against corporations instead of shooting easy targets? Disney earns its money from AMericans yet has the audacity to fire Americans and outsource. They will do what is profitable for them, however.
Who says I don't "raise [my] voice against corporations"? I most certainly do so. My congressman has heard from me when it comes to this issue. I know that I've pointed this out to you before.
That said, there is no guarantee that an H1-B visa holder will ever get a green card. Plus you know darn well that companies are aware that if they were to sponsor an H1-B for a green card, once that person has the green card in hand, s/he is free to leave the company. Companies would much prefer to have them remain as indentured servants.
Plus, as I've pointed out when it comes to transitioning from an H1-B to a green card --- Careful! You just might get what you wish for! Once one has that green card, s/he can be easily replaced by an H1-B.
"Shooting easy targets"? Are you saying that no one should speak out about the shoddy work done by H1-Bs?
For Corporations, Green Card is like "Dangling a Carrot" to entice H-1Bs.
Many H4 visa holders got married to H1B visa holder because of this carrot only in the dream of settling down in USA.
In many Universities, Research Institutions- Foreign Graduate Students, Ph.Ds, Post-Docs are made to work on false promise of funding which then turn out to be partial or Nil.
Who says I don't "raise [my] voice against corporations"? I most certainly do so. My congressman has heard from me when it comes to this issue. I know that I've pointed this out to you before.
That said, there is no guarantee that an H1-B visa holder will ever get a green card. Plus you know darn well that companies are aware that if they were to sponsor an H1-B for a green card, once that person has the green card in hand, s/he is free to leave the company. Companies would much prefer to have them remain as indentured servants.
Plus, as I've pointed out when it comes to transitioning from an H1-B to a green card --- Careful! You just might get what you wish for! Once one has that green card, s/he can be easily replaced by an H1-B.
"Shooting easy targets"? Are you saying that no one should speak out about the shoddy work done by H1-Bs?
But he may be alone. I think I never saw his name in the prominent bill which features many co signees from both parties.
Also if you are H1B also , you can switch and join others. Thats the reason the backlog for greencards are long.
They're not "immigrants". They are "guest workers" --- and no one owes them a green card---like it or not.
Bravo.
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Originally Posted by shanv3
You are right. However you dont owe them anything, but you cannot stop the corporations from owing them greencards. Green cards are sponsored by companies, USCIS merely adjudicates them. Trump/Kushner is proposing some canada style "points system" nonsense and trying to make it "socialistic"/govt controlled .
Why dont you raise your voice against corporations instead of shooting easy targets? Disney earns its money from AMericans yet has the audacity to fire Americans and outsource. They will do what is profitable for them, however.
We have boycotted Disney at our house for years. Fossil, too; they fired all of their IT workers in Dallas and sent their jobs to India. Wherever possible, we punish companies who operate like this. We even dumped AT&T for a competitor because the competitor had more of its operations on-shore.
We have boycotted Disney at our house for years. Fossil, too; they fired all of their IT workers in Dallas and sent their jobs to India. Wherever possible, we punish companies who operate like this. We even dumped AT&T for a competitor because the competitor had more of its operations on-shore.
We have boycotted Disney at our house for years. Fossil, too; they fired all of their IT workers in Dallas and sent their jobs to India. Wherever possible, we punish companies who operate like this. We even dumped AT&T for a competitor because the competitor had more of its operations on-shore.
Like it or not, bottom lines for most companies like Amazon, FB, Uber, Google, Microsoft etc depends considerably on their Indian revenues. You sell stuff where the market is huge and offer incentives in return. Thats how trade and market works.
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