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Old 08-14-2018, 07:02 AM
 
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The leader is the son of a guy who was believed to have been involved in the 1993 WTC bombing. He was never indicted due to lack of evidence.

The leader of this group would have been about age 14 at the time.

The children remain in state custody. The adults are being electronically monitored.

Judge said the state failed to prove this group was a danger to the community.

Then there ‘s the remains of a child which were found in or near the compound
Ditch the monitors and just run
They managed to fly under the radar for so long anyway
They can likely do it again
Where did their bail come from?
Who paid their attorneys???

ISIS among us--and I am not normally that pre-judging of people thought to be terrorists
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Pick them up and take them to Guantanamo. That is the risk of taking something like this to court.
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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I agree--but they were living in the desert in a home-made compound and are supposedly "indigent"
I don't understand why we are even seeing this lack of "threat" as a reason not to detain them
Where is DHS/terrorist threat assessment when you need them???

This is open to read unlike WaPo
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/suspec...ry?id=57160858

I am all for people being released on low-bail/monitors when they are really that type of low-level threat

These people were apparently training these kids to be school shooters--
This was a terrorist agenda waiting to come to fruition

These people need to be taken up by Homeland Security!!!
There could be other cells trying this same process since we have so many children who have fallen through the cracks and are vulnerable for exploitation...

Very disappointed in this judge's literal interpretation of the law
And VERY DISAPPOINTED that the Feds are taking a direct interest in this case
Are they so focused on ILLEGAL immigrants they have dropped the ball again in checking out terror threats?
This is not only an insult to our nation, but an even bigger insult to those who lost family members in the twin towers, I thought we were going to clamp down big time on terrorist groups...what the heck is Homeland Security getting paid for?

And this little piddly excuse for a judge, who is paying him?
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:04 AM
 
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Because a judge does something you disagree with that means there is something wrong with our judges? What about the other 2000 judges that placed bail on a defendant on that day?
Yes--most of the time judges put onerous bail conditions on indigent people
I really can't understand the leniency of this judge--
Anyone have link to her history
Do any of these creeps have LOCAL power base?
Was she elected or appointed?
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Pick them up and take them to Guantanamo. That is the risk of taking something like this to court.
totally agree, isn't it empty now? great place to put these people.

All of them, the women to....
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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There is a problem with liberal judges. We had a case in the Spring where a loser with 130 priors for things like assault, drugs, illegal guns and anger issues where he liked to beat up people, serious crimes, was let off again and again because his lawyer knew what judges to pick to have a bench trial every time this loser got into trouble. In the Spring a group of cops were serving yet another warrant on this guy and he shot one of them in the head killing him.

We had another loser with many priors shoot 2 cops but they will survive.



Time and again we have seen these liberal judges be lenient on hard core career criminals. WHY? is it that the jails are full and they are told by to cut these losers free? They don't seem to care that they are letting dangerous people back out on the streets.



What I don't understand is how a loser terrorist that tried to take down the world trade center building in 93 is not in prison and still allowed to live in the USA ?



The tolerance and charity displayed here is insane and look at the results.



If this loser had his way we would have been once again looking at a school shooting where innocent children were slaughtered and people would be wondering why it happens.
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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There is a problem with liberal judges. We had a case in the Spring where a loser with 130 priors for things like assault, drugs, illegal guns and anger issues where he liked to beat up people, serious crimes, was let off again and again because his lawyer knew what judges to pick to have a bench trial every time this loser got into trouble. In the Spring a group of cops were serving yet another warrant on this guy and he shot one of them in the head killing him.

We had another loser with many priors shoot 2 cops but they will survive.



Time and again we have seen these liberal judges be lenient on hard core career criminals. WHY? is it that the jails are full and they are told by to cut these losers free? They don't seem to care that they are letting dangerous people back out on the streets.



What I don't understand is how a loser terrorist that tried to take down the world trade center building in 93 is not in prison and still allowed to live in the USA ?



The tolerance and charity displayed here is insane and look at the results.



If this loser had his way we would have been once again looking at a school shooting where innocent children were slaughtered and people would be wondering why it happens.
Most criminals have a rap sheet a mile long, and have been left go again and again....my son is a cop and has told me if the public only knew how many times a criminal is arrested..."ON OUR TAX DOLLARS!" yet, they keep electing these people into office. Its just wrong....

here is the problem with our nation, they fail, miserably to Incarcerate bad people...insisting it's the guns....crazy...lunatics....
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:08 AM
 
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There is a problem with liberal judges. We had a case in the Spring where a loser with 130 priors for things like assault, drugs, illegal guns and anger issues where he liked to beat up people, serious crimes, was let off again and again because his lawyer knew what judges to pick to have a bench trial every time this loser got into trouble. In the Spring a group of cops were serving yet another warrant on this guy and he shot one of them in the head killing him.
Can you show where the law is that allows a lawyer to pick what judge he wants?
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:13 AM
 
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While this judge might be cast as a "liberal"
Consider what charges these people are facing--
I think it is just "child abuse"
The prosecutor's office didn't charge them with murder of the body of the child found on the site--
Likely because there is not enough evidence initially to show murder is the cause of death--
Have to do forensic autopsy/investigation to have enough to bring those charges

And they weren't charged with anything approaching terrorist charges---
Even if EVERYONE might think that is what they were planning--even the judge

The Judge has to follow the bail policies based on how they are CHARGED
If that means w/no prior history of being charged or convicted of child abuse or other felonies they are technically "clean" first-time offenders--
Then SHE cannot do much else but release them like she did

It is the burden/responsibility of LEOs involved--the local sheriff's office, the FBI, any state police in cooperation with the local prosecutor's office--to bring charges that mean stronger detention and bail policies
If you really want to blame the responsible parties--then blame them
You can't blame the judge (even if you want to) if the JUDGE followed the law...
You want a judge who does that if you come to court--
We all should want a judge who does that for the safety/benefit of the judicial system at large...
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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While this judge might be cast as a "liberal"
Consider what charges these people are facing--
I think it is just "child abuse"
The prosecutor's office didn't charge them with murder of the body of the child found on the site--
Likely because there is not enough evidence initially to show murder is the cause of death--
Have to do forensic autopsy/investigation to have enough to bring those charges

And they weren't charged with anything approaching terrorist charges---
Even if EVERYONE might think that is what they were planning--even the judge

The Judge has to follow the bail policies based on how they are CHARGED
If that means w/no prior history of being charged or convicted of child abuse or other felonies they are technically "clean" first-time offenders--
Then SHE cannot do much else but release them like she did

It is the burden/responsibility of LEOs involved--the local sheriff's office, the FBI, any state police in cooperation with the local prosecutor's office--to bring charges that mean stronger detention and bail policies
If you really want to blame the responsible parties--then blame them
You can't blame the judge (even if you want to) if the JUDGE followed the law...
You want a judge who does that if you come to court--
We all should want a judge who does that for the safety/benefit of the judicial system at large...
I have to admit, your right, you are 100% right, even if I don't want to admit it....your right....
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